latent-thoughts:

philosopherking1887:

If you’re a Thor/Loki shipper who dislikes what “Thor: Ragnarok” did to their characters,

could you please either (1) like this post if you’re not comfortable with your followers knowing or (2) reblog if you’re fine with letting them know? Reblogs are helpful for more exposure, too.

I ask because I’m feeling very alienated from the fandom right now. It seems that the Thorki fandom is dominated by people who like the way Ragnarok retconned Thor’s and Loki’s characters. Meanwhile, it seems that most of the people who object to the way it hollowed out Loki’s character are Loki stans who never liked Thor, and do not regard the Thor of Thor: Ragnarok as a radical departure from his character in previous films. So I’d like to get an idea of how many of my fellow shippers feel the way I do.

@philosopherking1887 I’m not really a Thorki shipper, though I enjoy the fanart and sometimes read certain fics. I’m in it for the sibling dynamic, most of all.

However, I also don’t fall under the category of the Thor hating Loki stan.

I’ve personally always seen Thor as someone who is kind of oblivious to Loki’s pain and suffering, rather than deliberately mean. He tries to reach out to Loki but due to the circumstances they’re in, it falls short somehow. His worldview seems too black and white, too simplistic, when put into perspective with Loki’s situation. And that’s the main cause of friction between them.

Perhaps the only time I felt really frustrated with Thor was when he visited Loki in his cell in TDW. I can understand that he doesn’t want to share his grief with his estranged brother, but he still could’ve answered Loki’s question regarding Frigga’s death. He essentially just told Loki that he was visiting merely because he wanted to use Loki’s skills. Of course, the whole Svartalfheim mission changes Thor’s perspective on Loki. (Which Ragnarok completely destroys, twisting the knife by making the whole thing into a big joke).

I wanted the brothers to carry on the positive turn in their relationship post Svartalfheim. Alas, that wasn’t to be. 🙁

It is no coincidence that my main fic is written in post TDW timeline, and I’ve tried, in my own way, to have the brothers address their issues and restore their sibling relationship.

TL: DR: I don’t hate Thor, but yes, I do hate what Ragnarok warped him into. I did like some of the banter between him and Loki, but a majority of it just rubbed me the wrong way. Same with how he treated Bruce.

OK, thanks. I am trying to get an accurate count of people who *currently* ship Thor/Loki, at least as they were in the movies before “Ragnarok,” possibly (as I do) assuming the basic events of “Ragnarok” as canon but with a very different construal of some of their actions than was intended by the film. If you are not a Thorki shipper, please do not like the post, because I don’t want to get an inflated impression of how many allies I have within the ship.