An interpretive note about “Thor: Ragnarok”

philosopherking1887:

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@writernotwaiting replied:

Actually this is exactly what I thought–neither one of them looked at all worried that Loki wasn’t going to make it out alive; Thor just seemed to assume that Loki had buggered off somewhere else, and was frankly thrilled that he chose to stick with his brother, instead

You didn’t have the moment of “huh?” that I did before you arrived at this interpretation?

uniislame:

kayseyjoelle:

Thor & Loki’s Childhood

Loki used to transform himself into Thor’s fave animals so Thor would pick it up and hug it ohmygod i can’t handle that revelation

well Loki would then turn back into himself in Thor’s arms shout “surprise it me!” and stab Thor but yeah thank you for this information i welcome my death now

Thor loves snake. Loki is a total snake. Ergo Thor loves Loki.

An interpretive note about “Thor: Ragnarok”

Spoilers!! under the cut.

I’ve been seeing a lot of remarks, especially in post-Ragnarok hug fic, suggesting that Thor thought Loki was dead after Surtur destroyed Asgard. When I watched it the first time, I was confused and seriously bothered about why Thor didn’t wait to see whether Loki had gotten out before he, Valkyrie, and Hulk jumped onto the big ship. Before Hulk shows up again after fighting Fenris, Thor and Valkyrie are talking like they think this was a suicide mission: “At least our people have gotten to safety.” But when Loki takes the little ship to go dunk Surtur’s crown in the Eternal Flame, he doesn’t look or sound like he thinks he’s going on a suicide mission.

Probably more tellingly, the way they play the “I’m here” moment, it definitely seems like Thor is testing whether Loki is an illusion, not a hallucination. I mean, a hallucination might still have seemed to catch the bottle stopper – though maybe Thor would have heard the clunk of it hitting the door? But as a follow-up to earlier moments, it only makes sense if he’s testing to see whether it’s an illusion; and Thor’s reaction of relief is definitely more appropriate to “Loki didn’t fuck off by himself” than “Loki isn’t dead.” So I’m guessing we’re supposed to think that Thor was trusting Loki’s strong self-preservation instincts and assumed that Loki got out in the little ship (the Commodore?) and just went off somewhere to make his fortune on some other planet. He’s pleasantly surprised that Loki came back to help him take responsibility for the homeless Asgardian people, not that he survived.

Unfortunately, that was not made very clear in the movie, and I was hearing other people around me asking “What happened to Loki?” It would have been really disturbing that Thor didn’t seem to be worried unless he was just very confident that Loki would find a way out but wasn’t expecting him to come back for other reasons.

fancykraken:

I really think there was a missed opportunity for a mid-credit scene in Ragnarok where Thor goes back to his room to have a nap, pulls back the bed covers and there’s this snake just chilling under them. He’s like ‘Haha Loki I’m not falling for that again.’ But Loki enters through the door and is all ‘What are you talking about?’ So Thor picks up the snake to show Loki but of course, the snake is actually Loki so he transforms back into himself and then punches Thor in the nose or something less aggressive idk I’ve been emotionally crippled by these two someone send someone

starklinqs:

Something that makes me laugh is the fact that Thor is telling the story of when Loki stabbed him when they were 8 and he’s just so concerned with telling the story of how Loki knew he loved snakes and scared him anyway and then tacks on the “and then he stabbed me” at the end so flippantly.

Like how often has Loki been stabbing Thor in their childhood for Thor to just be like 

¯_(ツ)_/¯ “Yeah I think he stabbed me that sounds right anyway though bACK TO THE SNAKES” it’s just the funniest thing to me true sibling solidarity is when you’re more upset about being scared than stabbed 

It’s also not made clear what 8-year-old Loki stabbed him *with*.

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philosopherking1887:

“It’s not the words ‘I’m here’ that tell him; those are late to the party. It’s the faint clap of the bottle stopper hitting the palm of Loki’s hand, then the softer echo of his fingers closing around it.

“Thor doesn’t even know whether he’s surprised or not; he can hardly tell what he feels. But he is a god and a king and a man of his word, so he opens his arms.”


Jumping on the post-Ragnarok hug fic bandwagon with you, @incredifishface and @raven-brings-light… and I’ve kept it gen for now, too. Gotta get the feelings out of my system first.

How did the philosophy reference get in there, you may ask? I dunno, man. These things just happen.

Jesus Christ, this is my first fic to break 150 kudos and I posted it less than a day ago. This is what happens when you post something immediately relevant to a movie right after it comes out instead of jumping on a slow-moving fandom train halfway through the 4-year lull between movies…

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