shine-of-asgard replied to your post “foundlingmother:
satanssyn-n-things:

lasimo74allmyworld:

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@Philosopherking1887 it’s a very interesting take on the situation, but I must say that the original take is quite unsurprising as well. One-sided shipping of a “good” character with a “to be fixed” or “won” one is quite common. The second character usually lacks any agency and is seen a an object. In love triangles, the girl almost always is treated like this. Quite unsurprising that Loki would be treated similarly.

@shine-of-asgard – wait, really? I mean, I kind of get shipping a good character with a villain or anti-hero who is to be “saved,” but I think in that situation the shipper still finds something compelling about the to-be-saved character. In fact, I get the impression that in such ships (e.g., Harry/Draco, Snape/Hermione, Kylo/Rey) the villainous character to be saved is the primary object of the shipper’s interest, and the saving character is often either an afterthought or a kind of stand-in for the shipper.

The idea of shipping a character you love with someone you think is bad or needs to be “fixed” (which I take to be more passive and to preserve less of the character’s original personality than being “saved”) just strikes me as bizarre. In both of my main MCU ships (Thor/Loki and Steve/Tony) there’s certainly one character I like better than the other (Loki > Thor, Tony > Steve), and I’ll admit to finding the other character interesting primarily for his relationship with the first, but I wouldn’t want the less interesting character to change fundamentally, beyond showing more respect and affection for my favorite; after all, my favorites clearly love and respect the people I ship them with for who they are now.

knightinironarmor:

wOW rdj talking about tony and steve is SUCH A WILD RIDE like one second it’s “for me i just think about obadiah’s deception” and then “i don’t know what i’m gonna do when chris is not cap anymore” and “mY FIRST INSTINCT WOULD BE TO BUST STEVE’S JAW PROBABLY” and “STEVE JUST HAS THE TRUEST MORAL PSYCHOLOGY” “but can tony really in good conscience pick up that phone to call steve” “LOVE YOU CAP” oh my god that is why rdj and chris evans could literally have like, cardboard, actual literal cardboard for scripted lines and the chemistry between them would still flow RDJ LIKES CHRIS SO MUCH AND TONY AND STEVE ARE SO INTENSE AND EXPLOSIVE i’m gonna cry

starkly-tony:

One of my favorite things about Tony and Steve and their relationship is that, for all his cynicism, Tony is fundamentally an optimist and for all his idealism, Steve is fundamentally not.

Tony has never had much faith in anyone else to do anything right. And when it comes down to it he’s not a big fan if himself, either. But he believes in the future. He believes that, for all its flaws, humanity is bettering itself. It’s worth investing in. It’s why he does what he does and why he’s a futurist.

Steve is the exact opposite. He believes in individuals. But, coming from the 40s, he’s already seen the future, and what it looks like is a while lot of the same. Sure, some things are better, but there still war and strife and pain and inequality. He has no reason to believe that another couple decades will make any difference at all.

But when you put them together, they complement each other perfectly, whether as teammates or friends or anything else. Tony has more than enough faith in humanity for the both of them and Steve has more than enough faith in people. And I just think that’s beautiful.

thorkicraving:

maneth985:

philosopherking1887:

maneth985:

wendihoe:

Thank you, BuzzFeed

don’t get me wrong, they care alot about eachother, but they’re not very compatible, of all the avengers, they’re the ones at odds the most when it comes to how to handle shit…or maybe that’s why? lol But I prefer Stucky if we’re going by ships with Cap.

I’ll be over here with Thorki.

If you ship Thorki, I should hope you understand the appeal of ships with some tension, whose members are often “at odds when it comes to how to handle shit.”

yeah. good point LMFAO. I just see Cap more with Bucky than with Stark but that’s just me.

I also see Cap with Bucky more than I do Tony. Sometimes I have my stony cravings but damn Stucky is so cute man.

I find Stucky boring because Steve and Bucky aren’t different enough. Maybe it would work better in real life, but as an aesthetic matter, I prefer ships that involve some initial conflict.