fancykraken:

Well since I have almost nothing but a shitty cam rip of the IW trailer from comic con and a few bts pictures from filming to base my thoughts on, I’m probably wrong on a lot of this, but what the hell. 

(spoilers for Ragnarok and IW trailer below)

Okay, so at the end of Ragnarok we see them all nice and safe on the ship and decide to go to earth, but the mid credits scene seems to completely destroy the idea that that will happen. From the IW trailer, we see Peter Quill and the Guardians run Thor over with the Milano as he’s just floating in space. This can only mean one of two things: Loki thought it would be a lark to airlock the new King of Asgard or really bad shit went down. My guess on this would be the latter, unfortunately. 

So this poses a lot of questions, such as what happened to the rest of the people on the ship or is it just Thor that is having a jaunt out in space. Loki has the Tesseract, there’s no way that he did not take that before resurrecting Surtur to defeat Hela. Plus we see him in the IW trailer with it (assuming this isn’t a flashback scene).

Thanos is out for blood because he’s just that kinda guy and also Loki kinda wiggled out of his influence (he’s a slippery bugger he is). 

I’ve seen a lot of people say that they’re worried about Loki turning ‘evil’ and his character development taking a few steps back from Ragnarok. Loki in Ragnarok was a dream come true for me because it full embodied Loki and who he really is. When Thor said he would be perfect to rule Sakaar because it’s a ‘savage, chaotic, lawless’ place I nearly died of happiness because really that is some of the core qualities to Loki’s. Loki is neither wholly good or evil, he’s Loki and he’s in it for himself and to cause chaos. He likes sticking his fingers into each piece of the pie and watch the players play out the game. So while yes, I am worried that they could revert Loki back to what he was in earlier movies, I don’t think he will go back to what he was. I think that he’s ultimately going to be out for pure survival because of Thanos and what’s happening. I will not be surprised if he betrays Thor, the Avengers, and Thanos all in one because that’s just how he rolls. 

Now there’s the question of Loki having the Tesseract and who he is giving it to in the trailer. A lot of people think it may be Thanos or maybe one of the Black Order. I fully believe that he was under the influence in Avengers of Thanos and probably the Mind Stone. I don’t buy in that he was fully controlled by it like some do, but he was definitely affected by all that. He was a pawn in Thanos’s means to an end. So with that in mind, I think there’s a good chance he’ll defect back to Thanos claiming he was playing the long game to get the Tesseract back for him and honestly I couldn’t blame him. The state of Loki from the end credits of Thor 1 of him looking like a meth addict and then him in Avengers coming through the portal definitely indicates that something bad happened to him. 

So once again Loki is the wildcard and really can go either way. I think Thanos would have to use some very big leverage or just all out mind control him to have him 100% on his side. But of course, that is all contingent if Thanos just doesn’t want to outright torture and kill him. 

Another thing would be Thor and Loki planning things together and have Loki act as a spy or seem like he’s on the other side so he can get info and pass it back to Thor. It wouldn’t be the first time something like that has happened.

With Thor, I think that it’s more straightforward. Things obviously aren’t good for him and if the ship is destroyed and his people killed (except Valkyrie, Loki, and Hulk since we already know they’re in IW) then he will ultimately feel a shit ton of guilt and want to shut Thanos down as fast as possible. Again him just floating amongst the debris (of what we don’t know) where the Guardians find him in space is a bad sign. The Guardians know about the Infinity Stones and Thanos, whereas Thor only knew about the stones and an unseen threat. Now that he’s with the GotG he has more answers and I think pairing him with the Guardians is the right move since they’re more rightly aligned in the Marvel-verse in terms of their settings and storylines. 

Guardians have the info Thor needs and Thor has the team that the Guardians need to stop Thanos. That’s how I think that Thor will help bridge Avengers and Guardians. We already know that Tony Stark will be with the Guardians from the trailer + the GotG cast talking about working with RDJ. 

The absence of Loki being with Thor when he’s found is also very telling that he got out of there as soon as he could when Thanos shows up or he was taken by Thanos. If that’s the case then maybe the rest of the Asgardians were taken as well and Thor needs to get them back and to do that he’d need Loki. 

This is now Thor King of Asgard and so he’s got so much on his shoulders that I just want to hug him forever. His duty is to his people and the universe, so I feel like he’ll be more in the mindset to do anything to get rid of Thanos and that kinda scares me because if he dies in IW then part of my soul dies as well. lololol Same goes for Loki and Tony Stark. 

So in a really, really short tl;dr version: Thor, King of Asgard Mode activated and ready to throw down, while Loki, Sneaky Fucker Extraordinaire will do anything to survive this thing.