like, heimdall saw that shit right? odin comes back through the bifrost and heimdall is just “…………….”
heimdall: that’s a baby
odin: yes! he’s my son! ………..loki. i’m going to dress him in green and black, because that worked great last time
or odin comes back and is trying to figure out, how to play it, and heimdall and frigga are just waiting for him and completely deadpan
frigga: ah, husband! you have returned from war in time to meet your newborn son. who i had. after being pregnant. secretly.
odin: what
frigga:
heimdall:
loki: *baby noises*
odin: right
honestly, i just need heimdall going up to frigga like “you won’t believe what your husband just did”
odin: he’s a replacement for the child I had to lock away in the shadow realm.
heimdall:
odin: I’ll do better by this one. I know I will.
heimdall:
heimdall: You mean Frigga will.
Odin: Please can we keep it? It’s cute and changes colours and smiles at my empty eye socket. I promise I’ll take care of it I’ll feed it every week and I’ll dress it in green and black and I’ll teach it to throw knives and it will be great!
Heimdall: Frigga, he stole a baby. Say something.
THIS IS THE BEST THING
Funny as this is, I think it gives Odin way too much compassion and fatherly skills. I picture it more like this:
Odin: I return to Asgard with the abandoned son of Laufey, who is now our political prisoner.
Heimdall: ……that’s a baby.
Odin: ……..well, yes, technically.
Frigga: …….he’s my son now.
Odin: I’m not sure if –
Frigga: don’t talk to me or my son ever again
Odin: But, Frigga…
Frigga walking away with the baby: You know, for a guy who gave up an eye to have the ability to foresee the future and all that, you really are pretty blind.
Odin: So, I have no depth perception. Sue me.
Heimdall: they wonder why I don’t go to family dinners…
I know a great many followers of Norse religions who believe Odin should’ve gotten his eye back.
ODIN: I have returned victorious! See, I have brought–
FRIGGA: My child.
ODIN: What?
FRIGGA: I’m your wife; if you’re bringing a baby into my bedchamber, it had damn well better be mine.
ODIN: …but this is…
FRIGGA: The next words out of your mouth had better not be, “an innocent baby that I’m going to keep imprisoned for political gain.”
ODIN: …
FRIGGA: Give me my son.
ODIN: …o…kay?
FRIGGA: Better start telling people this is your son, because I assure you I will have no problems telling people this is Laufey’s son.
ODIN: Heimdall! Please announce to the realm that I have a new son!
Scene from ‘Thor: Ragnarok’ (2017) // This is such an important moment for Loki. A LOT of Ragnarok posts coming up over the week people.
I have such a love/hate relationship with the trope of a father figure announcing a blanket “I love you” to a formerly estranged child. Because really? It brings nothing, solves nothing and helps nothing after decades of conflict that the parental figure was mostly directly responsible for. And yet I know I’m supposed to have warm feelings about it because I’m being fed the standard shortcut trope to insta-family love and it’s an improvement over “your birthright was to die” -which was the last conversation Odin had with Loki prior to this gifset.
Better tag @sarah1281 on this one because it was her comment. I do think Loki had some culpability – maybe not in Odin’s death as such, but in the manner of it, and of course the fact that he didn’t have the opportunity to warn them about Hela. But no, I don’t think Loki killed Odin. I think Odin was very old and tired, had been putting off Odinsleep too much, and was devastated by the death of Frigga, his companion, advisor, and love. I suspect that he was also hollowed out by his thorough failure with Loki, and the fact that Loki was so angry with him that he was willing to wipe his memory, banish him, and usurp the throne. To the extent that that’s the case, Loki is indirectly responsible, but I do think it’s also Odin’s recognition of his own failure, which isn’t exactly Loki’s fault.
I wouldn’t assign much blame to Loki for Odin being unable to tell them about Hela. He had many years to do so. Loki’s responsible for Odin not being able to warn them from 2013 to 2017 (and based on his previous silence, and how little he actually tells them, I’m not convinced he would have warned them much further in advance).
And since I was part of that initial conversation that @sarah1281 was referring to, I feel it’s important to clarify my point of view. It aligns with @philosopherking1887′s. Furthermore, I wouldn’t list Odin’s death as one of Loki’s crimes, and I take issue not with Thor blaming Loki (I think it’s a perfectly reasonable reaction to losing a loved one), but to the movie suggesting he’s correct when he says “You did this.” There’s a difference between a character searching for someone to blame for a loss (an irrational, but normal reaction to tragedy), and a film agreeing with that character, and presenting no room for a discussion. To tie it back into the post the anon was reading, I think it highlights one of the weaknesses in Ragnarok that they introduce, but never address, this particular reaction Thor has to his father’s passing. Ragnarok does a decent job of acknowledging the family conflicts, and even comes up with a few that make perfect sense, but it doesn’t pay them off well, if at all (see how Loki’s heritage is brought up and completely ignored in a handful of seconds). Some of that’s the tone of the movie, and some of it’s a disregard for the previous films.
Better tag @sarah1281 on this one because it was her comment. I do think Loki had some culpability – maybe not in Odin’s death as such, but in the manner of it, and of course the fact that he didn’t have the opportunity to warn them about Hela. But no, I don’t think Loki killed Odin. I think Odin was very old and tired, had been putting off Odinsleep too much, and was devastated by the death of Frigga, his companion, advisor, and love. I suspect that he was also hollowed out by his thorough failure with Loki, and the fact that Loki was so angry with him that he was willing to wipe his memory, banish him, and usurp the throne. To the extent that that’s the case, Loki is indirectly responsible, but I do think it’s also Odin’s recognition of his own failure, which isn’t exactly Loki’s fault.
Loki is the Philosopher King 