I’m just shopping for wine and whiskey, which is usually one of my favorite activities, and maybe it’s the maudlin country music playing but I just realized how upset I am that that travesty of a scene in IW might be Loki’s real, final death in the MCU and Tom Hiddleston’s last meaningful appearance. I’ve been wondering why they had him do so much press touring if he was in the movie for 5 minutes, and it might be to pull the rug out from under us… but it might have been a farewell tour. And I’m furious, of course, but also deeply, deeply sad.
Narratively it makes sense from the footage we’ve seen so far. Thanos’s ship shows up at the Ark at the end of Ragnarok, then from IW footage we see a bunch of dead Asgardians, we see Thor about to get crushed by Thanos, we see Loki offering up the Tesseract…then Thor gets picked up by the GOTG floating through space and looking all burnt and stuff. Plus from The Avengers we know that Thanos is probably pretty pretty pretty pissed at him.
Combined with the rumor that someone dies in the first five minutes, it’s not hard to guess who that might be.
From a utilitarian standpoint it makes sense too. There are SO MANY characters in IW, and there is no way they’re going to want to focus screen time on a secondary/tertiary character who’s not even a hero. It makes more sense to get him out of the way as soon as possible. Even more so when you consider that Loki is such a wild card…just his PRESENCE in Thor’s vision in Ultron was enough to confuse people and make them think he was behind everything and they had to get rid of it…best to just fridge him in IW.
From a “Hollywood” villain redemption standpoint it also makes sense. Hollywood doesn’t know how to redeem bad guys without killing them. They’ve been trying to make Loki more of a good guy, and what better way to complete that journey than to have him killed by Thanos while trying to save Thor’s life.
Also Loki is in practically none of the promo stuff, just the one shot of him with the Tesseract, and the only other bit we’ve seen of him was from filming a bit for Avengers 4 that was clearly a flashback or some kind of time travel to the past, which makes me suspect it’s because he’s just not in most of it.
Anyway, I WILL BE ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC IF I’M WRONG.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ugh, I hate that your reasoning is so convincing. I haven’t heard the rumor that someone dies in the first 5 minutes, though. Where did that come from? And what about the thing Feige said about Loki being allied with Thanos in Infinity War? That would be a really misleading way of characterizing “he hands over the Tesseract and gets killed immediately afterward.” (It would still be misleading, but somewhat more conventionally so, if the situation is what I hope it is: Loki pretends to be helping Thanos, but is planning to betray him.)
I’m somewhat inclined to think that they’d only be doing the flashback in Avengers 4 to Loki’s arrest at the end of The Avengers if Loki was still around and they were trying to clarify something about his motivations or his relationship with the Avengers. I could be wrong, but otherwise I’m not sure what the significance of the flashback would be.
If they are planning to kill him by having him sacrifice himself to save Thor and/or stop Thanos, I wonder if they have plans to bring in a Kid Loki. @sexualthorientation‘s recent posts have been making me want to see Timothée Chalamet as an adolescent Loki, Agent of Asgard…
Okay I have to get this out of my system. No spoilers, promise. I was watching Thor the Dark World the other day, prepping for Ragnarok and when Thor left Loki on Svartalfheim he was presumed to be dead. So I started thinking about all the theories that came about. Did he die, or did he fake it or plan it. Well, I think the answer could be very simple. Loki thought he was on his way his way out and had one moment of sincerity with Thor just before he passes out and takes a really nice well earned nap while his body healed.
Now the poor guard who discovered him, that guy, he thought Loki was dead too. Probably poked him with a spear and startled Loki awake. Startled, by the guard, Loki straight up slays the man on accident. That poor guard.
Oh shit he killed an innocent man and Thor is no where to be found.