Tag: loki

I look forward to being right.

thortunes:

Loki’s emoji is smiling because he’s not going to die in Infinity War, he’s going to live out the rest of his long natural life writing plays and occasionally causing trouble for Thor but mostly making art and drinking fine wine and probably arranging top notch cheese plates and luxuriating in baths and making amends when he feels like it and wearing comfortable textiles and working on being his best self.

kingloptr:

philosopherking1887
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These people insisting that when Loki let go at…”

@kingloptr usually when I see it I get the sense that’s it’s exactly the opposite of the motivation you describe in your tags. I think it’s people who really don’t like Loki, who see him as nothing but an evil opportunistic villain, and deny that he has ever experienced any real suffering that calls for our sympathy.

True, there’s that too! I sort of forgot about them I guess; I don’t see people who dislike Loki as often as I’m in the other end of spectrum with the stans ~

I just keep thinking of when I see the ‘Loki would neeever do that/let that happen’ types of headcanons inspired by more idealistic fanon versions of him?

Oh, that’s weird. Where I hang out, I seem to run into the haters more often than the stans. Or maybe I just ignore the stans because I know there’s nothing to be done about them? It seems that people who have joined the Thor fandom post-Ragnarok have bought into its uncharitable retcon of Loki’s character, and that annoys the crap out of me.

toomanylokifeels:

kingloptr:

philosopherking1887:

These people insisting that when Loki let go at the end of “Thor 1,” he knew he would survive – that it wasn’t a suicide attempt, just a bid to get out of hot water – have they been around since 2011-12, or is this a post-“Ragnarok” phenomenon?

When I see people express that belief, I always think of how Thor and Odin know just as much

(if not more-so.. Loki only just learned his genetics)

as Loki does about what he and his body are capable of surviving. And if they both genuinely believed he was dead after that (which I gotta remind people was not JUST falling into ‘a void’ it was into a really fucked up wormhole warped into existence by the destruction of the Bifrost and all the debris from that powerful technology…), then chances were not high that it was survivable even for someone with his skills, and Loki would’ve guessed that too.

Loki didn’t care about the consequences. He cared about Odin’s approval. With Odin’s final words of disapproval, it was enough for Loki to give up entirely. Loki was denied the one thing that he really wanted so he let go. It was very much a suicide attempt.

Loki may concoct elaborate plans, but there’s little evidence that he planned on surviving his fall. It just so happened by chance that he did, and Loki being Loki he played along with it as if he planned it and as if he’s been in control all along. From then on he just uses this trauma to try to manipulate people.

e.g. Loki trying to manipulate Thor by saying Thor tossed him into the abyss or using his story to win the favor of new allies.

…but make no mistake, folks, Loki intended on ending it all in that moment.

From then on he just uses this trauma to try to manipulate people.

e.g. Loki trying to manipulate Thor by saying Thor tossed him into the abyss or using his story to win the favor of new allies.

I don’t think I’m on board with that interpretation. I don’t think “I remember you tossing me into an abyss” was Loki lying to manipulate Thor into feeling guilty, because if he remembered what actually happened, he would know that the distortion of the facts was too obvious for that to work—and sure enough, Thor comes back at him about “imagined slights.” I think Loki’s memories got screwed with in some way, possibly involving Thanos using the Mind Stone to amplify his resentment toward his former family, or possibly just involving a lot of shame and repression. But he seems to have had enough time to recover since then that he straightened out his own account of what happened.

I’m still wrestling with the “using his story to win the favor of new allies” thing. The fact that he was telling it for laughs still makes me a little uncomfortable, but yes, I’ve been getting a lot of people saying that they joke about their trauma to regain power over it, and I do that too, so OK. I’d hesitate to call it “using his trauma to manipulate people,” though. He found a way to turn it into a good story, which probably includes changing a lot of facts about the lead-up and pretending it wasn’t traumatic, and he’s using it to impress people on Sakaar.

incrediblygoodloking:

Surprise!!!!

Loki’s a bit tied up at the moment. But who is the lucky recipient of such a gift? Is it the grand master? Is it Thor? Is it the hulk or Valkyrie?

Somebody write the fic! Message me and I will email you a link to upload this image to your ao3 fic.

Special thanks to @justanothertart for once again providing the inspiration and standing in as Loki’s body double.

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These people insisting that when Loki let go at the end of “Thor 1,” he knew he would survive – that it wasn’t a suicide attempt, just a bid to get out of hot water – have they been around since 2011-12, or is this a post-“Ragnarok” phenomenon?

What do you think of Loki laughing about his fall when Thor meets GM for the first time? I think it was stupid and shallow of T.W to do. It was a bad experience for him and he just laugh?

foundlingmother:

satanssyn-n-things:

I actually don’t think it was stupid and shallow, let me tell you why. Note where Loki is – a place where the high class people are those who laugh at the misery of those below them. They laugh and enjoy the torment of others, he was not making fun of himself when he laughs after saying ‘Then, I let go’, he is Loki, he is blending in, making himself a new life, becoming one of ‘them’ – remember, he thinks Thor is dead at this point, he is doing what he can and playing with the sadists who laugh at the trauma and pain of others.

He is surviving, as he does with Thanos, as he does in the prison in Asgard, he survives. To be high class, he has to turn himself into a person who is a  hunger games loving sadist or he ends up like Thor – in an arena where he has no hopes of lasting.

Hope this was what you were looking for : ) Thanks for the ask

I really, really, really like this. It’s a great point, and it’s the first thing that’s made me feel a bit comfortable with Loki laughing about his fall.

#though i’m not sure i’d assume we were meant to get that from the scene#because of how other serious moments from the previous movies were handled

Fair point, @foundlingmother… this is one of the few circumstances where I take full advantage of the “death of the author” principle: in fanfiction, at least, I’m going to assume an explanation like the one @satanssyn-n-things offers, where Loki is laughing at his own pain because he needs to in order to survive. But I am certainly not ready to give the actual creators of the movie that much credit… except maybe Hiddleston himself, because he seems to be the only one who sees Loki’s pain as worth taking seriously.

othermongoose:

I read somewhere that the actors for Loki and Frigga decided they should share a tic…to pick at their hands when they were upset or nervous. I decided to look for it, and lo and behold, it’s true! I guess that’s something of a ‘tell’ if Loki is in disguise, heh heh. Fauxdin indeed.