Kevin Feige:“The scene with Loki in chains being led towards Odin at the beginning of the movie was one of the additional photography scenes, and it actually came about for a couple of reasons. I was reading the tie-in comic and they had that scene in it. I get all the comics when they’re published – I flip through some of them, and I was flipping through that one and I went, ‘Holy crap – this has got to be in the movie!’ It’s slightly different in the comic than it is in the movie, but I thought this has to be in the movie. So I called Tom [Hiddleston] and we talked about his availability, and we said we were gonna do this scene. So he goes, ‘Remember, I pitched you that scene. Months ago!’ Well, I did not remember, but I believed him, and I’m happy for him to take credit for it because he does an amazing job in the movie.” [x]
Tom always ahead of them lol
Yes! Proof that he is smarter and more talented than them and has the perfect understanding of his character and Marvel didn’t deserve him.
Proof both that TH knows his character better than anyone else and that Marvel doesn’t give a shit and never had. They HAD a perfect villain, who was perfect precisely because he wasn’t a villain and because he was relatable and complex and people loved him. But they decided that since maybe Loki had a bit too many female fans and looked a little bit effeminate and wasn’t much of a heavy muscly hitter and used brains instead of force… That maybe he had cooties, you know, so better let him go or Marvel’s masculinity would be questioned or something. So they squandered a perfectly rich and nuanced character in favor of a muscly, gigantic and overpowered New Awesome Villain ™ with the most laughable and forced Moral Dilemma ™ ever that would totally appeal to the target adolescent male audience and pushed him down everybody’s throats.
Thanks for nothing, Feige. Your intelligence is on the same level as that of the adolescents you’re trying to woo, except they’ll grow and wise up and you… Well… won’t.
Just look at the shoulder pads, friends. The shoulder pads that could rival any 80s prom queen. These are the shoulder pads of a man who is super insecure that he doesn’t look more like his brother who is built like a house.
LOKI LAFEUYSON IS A PROUD BOTTOM BITCH AND THAT IS CANON
Here’s my take: Loki is, at his core, a masochistic sub. He likes to be chained up and slapped. It satisfies his profound self-loathing. But he also, occasionally, enjoys taking the dom role just to see what it’s like. And if someone (*cough*Thor*cough*) needs to sub every once in a while in order to fully relax, Loki is willing to play along for their benefit.
The Avengers does not show Loki as an actual dom. It shows him playing a part, which should be obvious from the scenes that indicate he’s under severe pressure from Thanos. Loki is an actor; we’ve known that since the first Thor movie. He can play a tyrant when he needs to; he can even kind of enjoy it. But that’s not really who he is.
P.S. the dom/sub contrast is separable from the top/bottom contrast. @illwynd’s powerful Thor/Loki fic I Remember a Shadow portrays Thor as a dominant bottom and Loki as a submissive top. It’s the sub aspect that’s core to Loki’s character, not the bottom aspect.
Now if that’s doesn’t spark a Loki movie, I don’t know what will.
I love you for saying this.
“Not enough Loki.” -Rolling Stone
Just casually bringing this back in 2018
^^^ in which I am reminded how much I love The Dark World and detest Ragnarok
And Taika Waititi’s response to this critical consensus – probably motivated by Chris Hemsworth, and with the blessing of Kevin Feige – was to gut Loki’s character, to ridicule and emasculate him at every turn, to deprive him of the complex interiority that all of these critics love, to reduce his motivations to “I couldn’t help myself, I’m a trickster” (an actual line from the ridiculous play in Ragnarok), a.k.a. “I did it for the lulz.”
Don’t give me that “But he foregrounded Thor and Loki’s relationship!” bullshit. He reinforced and endorsed the imbalance that was always present; he dismissed and delegitimized all of Loki’s grievances and presented his complete submission to Thor’s will as his redemption.