Tag: loki tv series

Hey, I just wanted to know your thoughts on the Loki show that was announced. Have you spoken on it already?

I’ve reblogged some salty commentary, but I don’t think I’ve given a straightforward statement of my view. So here it is: I’m not getting my hopes up. After Ragnarok and Infinity War, I don’t trust any of the schmucks at Marvel as far as I can throw them, and I’m tiny with a terrible arm. I trust Tom to try not to let it get fucked up, but there’s only so much he can do. (I don’t think he was happy with what was done to his character in TR and IW, but obviously he had limited power to advocate for himself and for Loki.)

I am VERY cynical about Disney’s motivations for doing this. Starting a separate streaming service so people need to pay for something else on top of Netflix and Hulu and Amazon Prime and whatever else they’re already paying for is incredibly obnoxious, and they’re using Loki’s popularity to rope in a guaranteed audience. In the movies, they catered to the fanboy hatred of Loki (surely motivated by dismayed resentment over how many women find Loki more attractive than the standard male power fantasies); but they’re more than happy to keep taking our money in a new medium.

Will I buy the streaming service? I don’t know yet. I’ll see what else is on it. I’m also waiting to see what happens with Loki in Avengers 4. I’m not above pirating things. I still haven’t watched Ant-Man and the Wasp, and when I do, it will be either on a service I’m already paying for or illegally.

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shine-of-asgard:

lucianalight:

seiramili7:

I love seeing salty THORturer fans’s asses got roasted by reality. 

Producer: “Mr. Hemsworth, you have the choice between guest starring in the new Lowki series or chewing broken glass.” Hemsworth: ”May I have some sriracha and a spoon for my glass shards?”

lackey’s mini series has been confirmed. disney loves to beat a dead horse and squeeze a dead fandom dry. a lot of people want hems to gueststar. I can not tell you how much I hate that idea. I don’t think hems enjoys working with him and if there is another thor movie i’d like it lackey-free.

So satisfying to watch…..

I’m glad that 90% of possibility is that Chris Hems will not appear on the show otherwise the story will be instantly ruined by his unconvincing and half-asses “acting”. 

Also, did those Thorturer fans really just putting Chris Hems on the “same level” with RDJ and Chris Evans?? That’s extremely disgraceful for classy actors like them. 

On a side note, I hope that this shows prove that Loki can exist perfectly fine without being involved in toxic relationship with his self-centered brother. I want Loki to find love/happiness outside of his shitty, toxic, and abusive family, and that means stay away as far as possible from his family especially his witless oaf brother who always made his life worse by abusing his identity repeatedly until Loki had to submitted to their toxic relationship like in the first place, again, instead of getting away from it. 

Wow! Seems like the confirmation of a Loki TV show really hit a nerve with some Loki haters. And I have to say I agree with some of their points @seiramili7 ! I don’t think CH enjoys working with TH anymore since Tom’s performance overshadows his acting. I love the idea of a real reconciliation for Thor and Loki(you know I loved Thor before TR) but if TR Thor is the characterization we’re going to get from Thor, I don’t want him to guest star either and I don’t want Loki in another Thor movie. Because Loki needs to accept and love himself and he won’t have real happiness if he goes back to be Thor’s shadow.

It honestly makes me laugh that these people are calling Loki’s fandom a “dead fandom” when all the social medias were taken over yesterday by Loki’s Army only with just a news about Loki and a tweet from Tom. This fandom never dies. We literally showed that even if Loki dies in canon we are still here. We still make content and metas and people started petitions for Loki to come back alive. This popularity must be a burn to them that they’re calling Loki, “lackey”. We have TR to thank, for giving Loki haters a derogatory term to use. And you know it is already proven that Loki can exist without Thor since a lot of his scenes don’t involve Thor and Loki has enough depth to be the lead character of a story.

Ohhh… How do I love some Schadenfreude with my breakfast…

Apparently even Hemsworth’s fans think he’s an asshole. Only they don’t seem to realize that being a jerk to/about your colleagues is a bad thing. That says a lot about both them and him.

Like @lucianalight, I’d be happy for Loki to continue having a relationship with Thor. Their relationship was the heart of the first two “Thor” movies and one of the emotional centers of gravity in “The Avengers.” But since CH and TW killed Thor and replaced him with the impostor I call Thor*, I definitely want Thor*, CH, and TW to stay the hell away from Loki. Fuck, I’d be happy if they recast Thor. Luke Hemsworth isn’t a terrible actor, and maybe he could be persuaded to atone for that gross cameo in TR. Or Charlie Hunnam, he looks about right.

The anxiety is going to be off the roof at this Octobers Ace Comic Con. We’ll be waiting with bated breath as to what Tom Hiddleston will say about the Loki TV series.

iamanartichoke:

timetravellingshinigami:

And i think he might have already known about this ‘cause that could be the reason he and Elizabeth Olsen were chosen to be at the Comic Con.

My number one meeting Tom Hiddleston fantasy is that we become platonic best friends forever and just have dates all the time where we drink tea and talk Shakespeare and Loki meta for hours, and my second one is that I have the opportunity to ask him each and every single question on my list, but my third one is to go to an event like this and have the confidence to sidle up to him when it’s my turn for a picture or whatever and be like, “I will slip $50 in your pocket right now if you just confirm or deny that Loki is alive, no bs, and I won’t tell a soul,” and I really wouldn’t, but even if he didn’t tell me, I bet the look on his face would be priceless. 

(I am joking, I wouldn’t actually do this. The first two fantasies are true though.) 

This has been a quality post. 

delyth88:

lokiloveforever:

shine-of-asgard:

warfenroar:

Pardon my fandom rant, but…

…my biggest fear about Avengers 4 isn’t that Loki won’t come back: it’s the MCU, it’s Loki, he won’t stay dead for long. No, my biggest fear is that he’ll come back and that Thor, after all that happened in Infinity War – things that should finally have taught him humility and empathy and changed him for the better – STILL will treat his own brother like his inferior (because apparently the writers think saying Thor loves Loki is enough). And that this will be portrayed as a “happy ending” and something Loki should be content with, even thankful for, because who wants a brother who respects them anyway.

How the heck am I gonna be satisfied with that for either of them?!

I really hope – no, I beg – that anyone messaging Marvel about bringing Loki back would do him (and me) a favor and also drop them a line about Thor’s treatment of him, just to let them know we expect better. ‘Cause honestly, if it continues like so far, he’s probably no worse off dead.

My fear is Loki being resurrected by Thor’s noble and fearless actions, this making all about Thor… again. Loki’s death was about Thor, now Loki’s life could be about Thor as well, this confiding Loki’s status as a a useless twink / fridge wife

That’s exactly my fear too. That’s why I hope those theories about Thor going to Hel / Vallhalla to resurrect Loki don’t pan out, because then it will only be about Thor’s noble act and not about Loki himself. What I’d like to see is Loki to come back by his own incredible will and wits, somehow, like he’s always done. He died for Thor (again) now can’t his life be about himself?

“…now can’t his life be about himself?”

This!!

To your concerns, @shine-of-asgard: I haven’t read the Kid Loki or Agent of Asgard comics (yet…), but I get the sense that even though Thor was responsible for bringing Loki back, Loki has nonetheless been able to lead his own life – intertwined with Thor’s, of course, but not beholden to him. They might want to do something like that… but if Tom Hiddleston comes back in cameos as “Old Loki,” it wouldn’t have the same significance it does in the comics (I gather), because the MCU “Old Loki” was never actually evil. Even at his worst, in Thor and The Avengers, there were extenuating circumstances; he wasn’t in his right mind, and his intentions weren’t entirely malicious. I’m afraid that the way they’ll try to make it work is to frame Old Loki the way Ragnarok did, as not *evil* precisely – because even that would be giving him more credit for competence and motivational complexity/coherence than Ragnarok wanted to – but as *bad*, this cartoon trickster who betrays people for shits and giggles, or because it’s “in his nature” and he “just can’t help himself.”

Alternatively, though, Old Loki could just represent his envy and resentment against Thor and the pain and grievances he can’t move past, while Kid or Teen Loki is trying to live a new life free of all that baggage. That might be compelling, and would be worthy of Tom Hiddleston.

If they are going to reincarnate Loki with a new young actor… I wish Old Loki’s sacrifice had been more significant. I wish he had either had a real reconciliation of Thor, with an acknowledgment of fault on both sides and a resolve from both to do better, or that he had remained Thor’s enemy; the false reconciliation and “redemption” as submission to Thor’s will, and then the pointless shock-value death that didn’t even give much of a payoff to his connection with Thanos (what the hell happened, Marvel?!), are just such a disappointing end to his character arc. This is how your best, most complex and interesting character goes out, not with a bang but a whimper.

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that the Maevel tv thing isnt real news. The original article is from Variety, and it basically says “We think maybe some of the marvel characters might get some tv shows because of the new streaming service? When we asked, they said they had no comment.” It’s speculation, a hope, being passed off as fact. Don’t get tricked into getting your hopes up for something that someone made up! >_<

iamanartichoke:

Thank you for this! It seems to be, at this point, a little nugget released with the intent of whipping Loki fans into a frenzy (which they have accomplished, positive or negative frenzy aside). I will give Marvel this, they know how to market. At this point, we are way beyond IW speculation and gossip, way beyond the IW DVD release follow-up gossip, yet still months away from A4. They need to keep people talking about the Avengers and about Loki, and so here we are. 

What I find interesting, though, is that a lot of mainstream media hopped on it, and even Josh Horowitz (who is pretty good friends with Tom Hiddleston, or so I assume based on their interactions) tweeted a reaction. So it’s like, well, it’s probably just speculation at this point, but valid sources are like, “Idk seems legit?” and that does very little to dampen people’s hopes. 

Either way, ultimately I want a Loki TV show very much, but I only want it if it’s going to be done right – by which, I mean no Taika Waititi-esque nonsense. I like a humorous Loki, but an appropriately humorous Loki, layered with his complexity and tragic history. (It’s worth mentioning I doubt very much TW himself would actually be involved – he’s CH’s buddy and made no secret of his dislike for Loki – but that doesn’t mean other directors won’t want to take a page from his book.) 

Honestly, the best case scenario would be Joss and/or Jed Whedon being involved, the former who gave us a ton of Loki depth (even if Loki was banana balls for most of A1), and the latter who does excellent work on Agents of SHIELD, not to mention all of their experience with TV writing. They capture humor and depth very, very well. But Joss just had another show picked up for HBO, I think, and even so, apparently he seems to be Persona Non Grata at Marvel, for whatever reason. Oh, but wouldn’t it be SO AWESOME if the TV show took place in that year between Thor 1 and Avengers, with Joss Whedon at the helm, to show us exactly what Loki went through? This could be done without involvement from Hemsworth, Hopkins, etc, would tie nicely into the MCU, and would just …. well. ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney.gif. 

Hey, I can dream. 

Thank you for the ask! Sorry for rambling at you in reply. ❤️❤️❤️

I think the reason Joss is persona non grata at Marvel – and he’s none too fond of them either – is that he resented all their meddling in AOU. For me, that makes it seem deeply ironic that they just let Taika do whatever the fuck he wanted with Thor: Ragnarok. Like… dudes. Joss is an expert sci-fi/fantasy storyteller. He knows how to tie deep philosophical themes and compelling character development into an exciting narrative. He cares about these characters, the Asgardian ones as well as the human ones. None of those things are true of Taika. Joss is the one they should have left to do his thing; they should have pulled in the reins on the reckless bowdlerization of three of their central characters (Bruce as well as Thor and Loki).

You and I have the same wish list, it sounds like. (Though on some level I don’t want them to tell us exactly what happened during Loki’s lost year because I don’t want my fic to be rendered obsolete…)

we-foundwonderland:

iamanartichoke:

Marvel: Kills Loki horribly, fucks up IW, is generally a hot mess. 

Me, on my way to fanfic land: 

Marvel: Okay, but how about a Loki TV show starring Tom Hiddleston? 

Me: 

Marvel at all of us:

I’m extremely skeptical about the motivations here; it feels very cynical – like the outcry about Loki’s death in IW alerted Marvel to how invested his fanbase was, and they decided they’d capitalize on that to convince people to buy their new streaming service. If they already decided to do this before IW came out and they saw the reaction (which they might have; I don’t know how long it takes to negotiate something like this) I would be somewhat less skeptical.

I’m still not buying anything from Marvel until I find out what they’re doing with Loki in Avengers 4. If I’m not impressed, then I’m pirating the Loki TV series rather than buying Disney’s streaming service.