Oh no, @fuckyeahrichardiii… we’ve got the Guardians now, but still no Loki. Either he’s toast early on or his loyalties are obscure enough that they’re not associating him with either side. Right now I’m desperately hoping for the latter.
You would think, with all the money and resources that go into these movies, that they could have someone go back and watch that scene to check what Loki was wearing… Though I think he still had the cape when he said the “I’ll have that drink now” line. You’d think he would have vanished it soon after that, the way he did when he surrendered in Stuttgart…
OMG I DIDN’T EVEN NOTICE HE ROLLED HIS EYES DAHELL LOKI DAT SASS
rightful king of sassgard.
DON’T YOU ROLL THOSE EYES AT ME MR.!!!
he’s checking out how the door mechanism works for future escape, actually. but yeah.
Knowing him, it’s both. His checking the door and rolling his eyes. Because our boy is sassy and dramatic.
Checking the door, rolling his eyes, and using that to also spot where all the cameras are without looking like he’s looking. Makes it much more dramatic when he looks directly at the lens a few minutes later because we haven’t seen him register the location.
joss whedon: loki tortures and murders people for fun, and, despite being the god of CHAOS, is a fascist who says things like “it’s the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation”
taika waititi: loki is an annoying little shit who day-drinks, puts on theater about himself, and fucks his way to the top
Oh my fucking God, did y’all even watch The Avengers? Or are you so determined to hate Joss Whedon for every reason you can scrape up that you’ll accept the most shallow, clumsy reading of the movie purely out of spite?
To those who are paying attention, the Loki of The Avengers has pretty clearly been messed up by whatever happened with Thanos. Also, notice what he’s looking at when he smiles about taking the dude’s eye out: not the guy writhing on the bench, but the confused, horrified people screaming and running away from him. Chaos. Notice what he does when he gets himself captured by the Avengers: feed them carefully chosen truths about themselves, expose their hypocrisy, as mythical Loki does in the Lokasenna (thanks for this observation, @seidrade); sow dissension and, yes, chaos among them.
Not that I really expect anyone who’s determined to hate Joss Whedon and everything he does to read something that fits The Avengers neatly into the rest of Loki’s characterization, but I have made a fanfictional effort to do just that which all of its readers have reported is successful.
Apparently there is still some argument over whether Loki was tortured/coerced into the actions of The Avengers? And whether there was any mind-scrambling involved?
Well I can see why. I mean…
Thanos would never do a thing like that (torture), because he’s surely a nicer guy than Nick Fury who suggests it right off the bat;
Loki would totally sign up to assist a much more powerful being in universe-conquering, that’s totally smart and sane and how he rolls, no coercion needed to place himself at the mercy of a cosmic-powered asshole;
The Other has clearly never threatened him before, Loki seems to trust it completely and is totally shocked that they don’t have the happiest business arrangement;
Loki’s “plan” isn’t reckless or bafflingly stupid or full of holes or in any way uncharacteristic of him at all;
It’s not like he has those same dark sleep-deprived circles around his eyes that Barton and Selvig develop;
It’s not as if he talks like a madman spouting indoctrinated-sounding nonsense like a freshly converted acolyte;
It’s not like even Thor thinks someone is controlling him;
Not like Thor and Banner both allude to him clearly being “beyond reason”, i.e. not in his right mind;
Not like Loki’s carrying a scepter around most of the film that is shown onscreen to negatively effect the emotions and behavior of people who even stand in a room with it for a short time, and anyway he’d surely be immune to it if he was, being so emotionally stable and not at all vulnerable;
Not like mind control is a running theme in this film or anything;
Loki’s dialogue in a cut extended scene certainly doesn’t allude to having been “touched” by the same power himself;
And of course he appears to be in great health, pallor and sweating and stumbling and lank greasy hair and months’ worth of shadows under his eyes notwithstanding, so it stands to reason he’s A-OK mentally. He’s just evil. For the evulz.
Yes, I can clearly see you’d have to be a hormone-addled bleeding-heart fangirl desperate to redeem the hot villain to see ANYTHING suspect in any of this. Torture, mind control, pfft. When will we learn to stop thinking like that? Logic schmogic, stop using your brains, girls.
I love this meta with my life
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Loki was not “mind controlled” in exactly the same way as Barton and Selvig, which we know because his eyes are definitely not that bright crystalline blue. BUT he’s clearly been threatened, probably tortured, and also quite probably messed with in some way using the Mind Stone. As ever, please see my currently 72,000-word fic for details on how this might have gone down.
Loki is the Philosopher King 