Tag: loki in infinity war

loptrlaufey:

no words………*

OK, @foundlingmother, @led-lite, @tara-noire – I think the staging here suggests that Loki will spend some time (pretending to be) working with Thanos. See how he’s standing with Thanos’s generals while Thanos threatens Thor and then breaks the cube to get the Space Stone out.

Maybe Loki will claim that he usurped the throne of Asgard so that he could recover the Tesseract for Thanos after he (shamefully) lost it by losing the battle for Midgard. Why Thanos would accept that excuse, I’m not sure… but banishing Odin and posing as him for 4 years is a pretty impressive trick.

foundlingmother:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

philosopherking1887:

tobetterourselves:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

foundlingmother:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

cathartic discussion time for all my loki stans: how the fuck is he going to be killed 

Thanos seems to have the Power Stone when he arrives on Earth via the portal. I imagine he uses that. Or perhaps Corvus Glaive skewers Loki with his pike.

And he defo dies protecting Thor in some way. I will accept nothing else (not that I’m accepting it anyways).

that’s such shit though he already “died” protecting Thor and I’d like to think that Thor and Loki are equals and that neither of them should have to die for each other to prove themselves 

*raises hands* I agree with you. I also think it would be a massive waste to kill Loki in Infinity Wars. His connection to Thanos would make for an interesting bit of plot, and I wonder if it will be addressed at all with him dead (which he most certainly will be, probably in the first five minutes).

Well, at least if Loki’s connection with Thanos is never addressed/explained, then Abyss will never become defunct (and I don’t have to finish it before Infinity War comes out, which is probably not going to happen anyway).

Okay my prediction is that Loki won’t die. I know that in the promos we’ve only seen him in that one scene, which doesn’t bode well.

But what if it’s because showing him later in the movie would be a spoiler?

Maybe:

– Loki will give the Tesseract to Thanos, but then it will be revealed at the dramatic conclusion that he had a devious plan to help the Avengers all along.

– We and/or Thor will think Loki is dead, but he’s actually alive and working for Thanos, giving a dramatic reveal when Loki turns up for the final battle.

I have about 80% confidence that Loki will die at some point in the movie, but I’m only at 50% that he’ll die in the first 5 minutes.

If Loki does not die in the first 5 minutes, I’m voting for some combination of the options you outline above: Thor (and possibly the audience) thinks Loki is dead, and he appears to be working for Thanos either when he shows up in the final battle or (if the audience knows he’s alive) during the time between his separation from Thor and the final battle. But then at some point in the final battle he reveals that he was planning to double-cross Thanos all along.

I hate to rain on everyone’s parade (all evidence to the contrary–my meta is one giant storm over parades of people who actually enjoy Ragnarok, and other Marvel movies occasionally), but what possible reason does Thanos have to trust/recruit Loki? Loki lost one of the Infinity Stones. Even if he gives the Tesseract over, the Mind Stone’s still gone, and Thanos may even know about Loki’s part in keeping the Aether from him.

Much as Loki playing double agent sounds cool to me, it just doesn’t seem likely. Thanos would seem stupid, weak, and desperate to trust someone that failed him before, and I’m pretty sure even Marvel knows that.

The reason I think Loki might be apparently allied with Thanos is not so much because Thanos has reason to trust him as because of something Kevin Feige said, reported in this article from The Mary Sue. (Ignore some of the other obnoxious things in the article, including calling Taika Waititi “our Lord and savior.” *shudder* *barf*) If you watch the video, the relevant portion starts at 1:57.

This also supports the hypothesis that Loki will eventually die in the movie, because Feige says he “might show up for a while.” “A while” does seem to suggest longer than 5 minutes, but who knows.

@led-lite

Hmmm… Again, much as the double agent thing is cool, I think it would undermine Thanos’ character (which has thus far been characterized by his brutality even to his minions/allies/children).

Now, if Thanos knows that Loki knows where the Aether is, but not where Loki sent it (which seems odd, but it could be possible), I could see him keeping him around until he… talks… (at which point I think I’d prefer him dying in the first five minutes–death is preferable to more torture)

But who knows. Maybe Marvel will find a way for Loki to convince Thanos he’s tots on his side, and we’ll get the double agent plot line with or without a heroic death later in the film.

They haven’t had a problem with undermining Thanos’s character before… he came off looking pretty fucking incompetent in Guardians of the Galaxy.

Hmm, interesting thought about keeping Loki around to tell him where the Aether is. I don’t think Marvel will show or even imply any really gruesome torture; probably just more electrocution or something. (Thor and Thanos have something in common!) But they’re definitely going for a darker, grimmer (or even grimdark) tone for this movie, so I certainly wouldn’t put it past them.

Or maybe Loki will pretend to be cooperating so he doesn’t get tortured. We can hope.

led-lite:

philosopherking1887:

tobetterourselves:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

foundlingmother:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

cathartic discussion time for all my loki stans: how the fuck is he going to be killed 

Thanos seems to have the Power Stone when he arrives on Earth via the portal. I imagine he uses that. Or perhaps Corvus Glaive skewers Loki with his pike.

And he defo dies protecting Thor in some way. I will accept nothing else (not that I’m accepting it anyways).

that’s such shit though he already “died” protecting Thor and I’d like to think that Thor and Loki are equals and that neither of them should have to die for each other to prove themselves 

*raises hands* I agree with you. I also think it would be a massive waste to kill Loki in Infinity Wars. His connection to Thanos would make for an interesting bit of plot, and I wonder if it will be addressed at all with him dead (which he most certainly will be, probably in the first five minutes).

Well, at least if Loki’s connection with Thanos is never addressed/explained, then Abyss will never become defunct (and I don’t have to finish it before Infinity War comes out, which is probably not going to happen anyway).

Okay my prediction is that Loki won’t die. I know that in the promos we’ve only seen him in that one scene, which doesn’t bode well.

But what if it’s because showing him later in the movie would be a spoiler?

Maybe:

– Loki will give the Tesseract to Thanos, but then it will be revealed at the dramatic conclusion that he had a devious plan to help the Avengers all along.

– We and/or Thor will think Loki is dead, but he’s actually alive and working for Thanos, giving a dramatic reveal when Loki turns up for the final battle.

I have about 80% confidence that Loki will die at some point in the movie, but I’m only at 50% that he’ll die in the first 5 minutes.

If Loki does not die in the first 5 minutes, I’m voting for some combination of the options you outline above: Thor (and possibly the audience) thinks Loki is dead, and he appears to be working for Thanos either when he shows up in the final battle or (if the audience knows he’s alive) during the time between his separation from Thor and the final battle. But then at some point in the final battle he reveals that he was planning to double-cross Thanos all along.

Everyone knows I’m very Team “Loki’s-dead-before-the-opening-title-rolls”
but if he does survive I don’t want it to be with Thor ‘seeing’ him die again.

If he survives Thanos’s initial battle against the Asgardian Ark, I want Thor to get rocketed to the Guardians’ ship before he can ‘see’ it. 

Basically, I’d rather have Thor wonder if his brother is still out there than incorrectly thinking he’s dead…for a third fucking time. Sick of that.
But he’s definitely dead before the titles roll. Mark m’words.**

And again…Loki dies in part 3, but there’s some time stone fuckery in part 4 that gives us more screentime…which is fine by me. 

I think the BIG death, if they go for another in the finale of the movie, will be Cap. Cap or Tony, but leaning to Cap. I really need to start a deadpool.

**when I say I’m sure, I don’t want to give anyone the impression that I was spoiler hunting, I’m not shitty like that. I’m just narratively sure because it makes sense to me. /end disclaimer.

Oh good point about Thor watching Loki die – that has gotten old. Maybe he just doesn’t know whether he’s alive, as you suggest; or maybe Thor sees Loki give the Tesseract to Thanos, and perhaps even leave in his company, so he thinks Loki has betrayed him again, even more spectacularly than ever before, since he’s (apparently) allying himself with the person who slaughtered the Asgardians.

foundlingmother:

philosopherking1887:

tobetterourselves:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

foundlingmother:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

cathartic discussion time for all my loki stans: how the fuck is he going to be killed 

Thanos seems to have the Power Stone when he arrives on Earth via the portal. I imagine he uses that. Or perhaps Corvus Glaive skewers Loki with his pike.

And he defo dies protecting Thor in some way. I will accept nothing else (not that I’m accepting it anyways).

that’s such shit though he already “died” protecting Thor and I’d like to think that Thor and Loki are equals and that neither of them should have to die for each other to prove themselves 

*raises hands* I agree with you. I also think it would be a massive waste to kill Loki in Infinity Wars. His connection to Thanos would make for an interesting bit of plot, and I wonder if it will be addressed at all with him dead (which he most certainly will be, probably in the first five minutes).

Well, at least if Loki’s connection with Thanos is never addressed/explained, then Abyss will never become defunct (and I don’t have to finish it before Infinity War comes out, which is probably not going to happen anyway).

Okay my prediction is that Loki won’t die. I know that in the promos we’ve only seen him in that one scene, which doesn’t bode well.

But what if it’s because showing him later in the movie would be a spoiler?

Maybe:

– Loki will give the Tesseract to Thanos, but then it will be revealed at the dramatic conclusion that he had a devious plan to help the Avengers all along.

– We and/or Thor will think Loki is dead, but he’s actually alive and working for Thanos, giving a dramatic reveal when Loki turns up for the final battle.

I have about 80% confidence that Loki will die at some point in the movie, but I’m only at 50% that he’ll die in the first 5 minutes.

If Loki does not die in the first 5 minutes, I’m voting for some combination of the options you outline above: Thor (and possibly the audience) thinks Loki is dead, and he appears to be working for Thanos either when he shows up in the final battle or (if the audience knows he’s alive) during the time between his separation from Thor and the final battle. But then at some point in the final battle he reveals that he was planning to double-cross Thanos all along.

I hate to rain on everyone’s parade (all evidence to the contrary–my meta is one giant storm over parades of people who actually enjoy Ragnarok, and other Marvel movies occasionally), but what possible reason does Thanos have to trust/recruit Loki? Loki lost one of the Infinity Stones. Even if he gives the Tesseract over, the Mind Stone’s still gone, and Thanos may even know about Loki’s part in keeping the Aether from him.

Much as Loki playing double agent sounds cool to me, it just doesn’t seem likely. Thanos would seem stupid, weak, and desperate to trust someone that failed him before, and I’m pretty sure even Marvel knows that.

The reason I think Loki might be apparently allied with Thanos is not so much because Thanos has reason to trust him as because of something Kevin Feige said, reported in this article from The Mary Sue. (Ignore some of the other obnoxious things in the article, including calling Taika Waititi “our Lord and savior.” *shudder* *barf*) If you watch the video, the relevant portion starts at 1:57.

This also supports the hypothesis that Loki will eventually die in the movie, because Feige says he “might show up for a while.” “A while” does seem to suggest longer than 5 minutes, but who knows.

@led-lite

tobetterourselves:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

foundlingmother:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

cathartic discussion time for all my loki stans: how the fuck is he going to be killed 

Thanos seems to have the Power Stone when he arrives on Earth via the portal. I imagine he uses that. Or perhaps Corvus Glaive skewers Loki with his pike.

And he defo dies protecting Thor in some way. I will accept nothing else (not that I’m accepting it anyways).

that’s such shit though he already “died” protecting Thor and I’d like to think that Thor and Loki are equals and that neither of them should have to die for each other to prove themselves 

*raises hands* I agree with you. I also think it would be a massive waste to kill Loki in Infinity Wars. His connection to Thanos would make for an interesting bit of plot, and I wonder if it will be addressed at all with him dead (which he most certainly will be, probably in the first five minutes).

Well, at least if Loki’s connection with Thanos is never addressed/explained, then Abyss will never become defunct (and I don’t have to finish it before Infinity War comes out, which is probably not going to happen anyway).

Okay my prediction is that Loki won’t die. I know that in the promos we’ve only seen him in that one scene, which doesn’t bode well.

But what if it’s because showing him later in the movie would be a spoiler?

Maybe:

– Loki will give the Tesseract to Thanos, but then it will be revealed at the dramatic conclusion that he had a devious plan to help the Avengers all along.

– We and/or Thor will think Loki is dead, but he’s actually alive and working for Thanos, giving a dramatic reveal when Loki turns up for the final battle.

I have about 80% confidence that Loki will die at some point in the movie, but I’m only at 50% that he’ll die in the first 5 minutes.

If Loki does not die in the first 5 minutes, I’m voting for some combination of the options you outline above: Thor (and possibly the audience) thinks Loki is dead, and he appears to be working for Thanos either when he shows up in the final battle or (if the audience knows he’s alive) during the time between his separation from Thor and the final battle. But then at some point in the final battle he reveals that he was planning to double-cross Thanos all along.

philosopherking1887:

maryxglz:

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The composition here is very interesting. To some extent it indicates which villains they take to be most important; note that secondary villains like Justin Hammer, Kurse, Ayesha, and Ulysses Klaue are placed farther back and smaller than primary villains. Not sure why Zemo is so far back and tiny, though, considering that he was the primary villain of Civil War… maybe because he’s an operate-from-the-shadows kind of villain? (Computer-Zola is also in the back, but that might be for purely visual considerations.) Also, they’ve got the Mandarin a.k.a. Trevor Slattery on there pretty prominently, but where’s Aldrich Killian? Is he the guy between Ego and Zemo who looks like he’s on fire? Because if not I can’t figure out who that is. Note also that Hela and Ayesha are the only women. C’mon, Marvel.

Most importantly, though: what does it mean that Loki is placed front and center, and relatively larger than his nearest neighbors, making it look like he’s farther forward? Is it just because he was the villain of the first ensemble Avengers movie? Does it recognize the connection between him and Thanos? Is it an acknowledgment of his popularity, and the fact that he consistently gets ranked as the best Marvel villain? Might it be a sign (please, please) that they’ll let him play a significant role in Infinity War? (Again, I know I’m grasping at straws…)

@fuckyeahrichardiii, do you have any insights on this?

maryxglz:

(x)

The composition here is very interesting. To some extent it indicates which villains they take to be most important; note that secondary villains like Justin Hammer, Kurse, Ayesha, and Ulysses Klaue are placed farther back and smaller than primary villains. Not sure why Zemo is so far back and tiny, though, considering that he was the primary villain of Civil War… maybe because he’s an operate-from-the-shadows kind of villain? (Computer-Zola is also in the back, but that might be for purely visual considerations.) Also, they’ve got the Mandarin a.k.a. Trevor Slattery on there pretty prominently, but where’s Aldrich Killian? Is he the guy between Ego and Zemo who looks like he’s on fire? Because if not I can’t figure out who that is. Note also that Hela and Ayesha are the only women. C’mon, Marvel.

Most importantly, though: what does it mean that Loki is placed front and center, and relatively larger than his nearest neighbors, making it look like he’s farther forward? Is it just because he was the villain of the first ensemble Avengers movie? Does it recognize the connection between him and Thanos? Is it an acknowledgment of his popularity, and the fact that he consistently gets ranked as the best Marvel villain? Might it be a sign (please, please) that they’ll let him play a significant role in Infinity War? (Again, I know I’m grasping at straws…)

From Entertainment Weekly’s interview with Kevin Feige:

One criticism you’ve gotten is when somebody dies in a Marvel movie, they tend to come back in some way. If it happens, will it be for real this time?
Yes. I mean, I could always list off the characters that we’ve killed in our movies that haven’t come back, but the big ones, which I know they’re looking at …? [Pause.] I would just say, yes. People need to be careful what they wish for.

Loki is so, so dead. I just hope he’ll have a chance to do some cool stuff before he dies. And that he’ll die doing something epic.

fuckyeahrichardiii:

philosopherking1887:

thorodinson:

Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

Oh no, @fuckyeahrichardiii… we’ve got the Guardians now, but still no Loki. Either he’s toast early on or his loyalties are obscure enough that they’re not associating him with either side. Right now I’m desperately hoping for the latter.

I have a feeling he’s probably toast….. 😦

Also, this remains blatant Hawkeye erasure!

The Hawkeye erasure actually gives me cause for *very* cautious hope regarding Loki. I think the reason they’re not showing Hawkeye is because they’re going to do something ~dramatic~ with him (read: fridging his whole family) rather than because they’re planning to kill him early in the movie (though I might be wrong). So it may be that they’re not showing Loki because he’s also going to play some surprising(ish) dramatic role instead of dying in the first 5 minutes.

I know I’m grasping at straws here, but… that’s all I’ve got.