lucianalight:

bambamwolf87:

madisonyork:

Kevin Feige:“The scene with Loki in chains being led towards Odin at the beginning of the movie was one of the additional photography scenes, and it actually came about for a couple of reasons. I was reading the tie-in comic and they had that scene in it. I get all the comics when they’re published – I flip through some of them, and I was flipping through that one and I went, ‘Holy crap – this has got to be in the movie!’ It’s slightly different in the comic than it is in the movie, but I thought this has to be in the movie. So I called Tom [Hiddleston] and we talked about his availability, and we said we were gonna do this scene. So he goes, ‘Remember, I pitched you that scene. Months ago!’ Well, I did not remember, but I believed him, and I’m happy for him to take credit for it because he does an amazing job in the movie.” [x]

Tom always ahead of them lol

Yes! Proof that he is smarter and more talented than them and has the perfect understanding of his character and Marvel didn’t deserve him.

lucianalight:

latent-thoughts:

veliseraptor:

kevin feige saying that valkyrie instead of jane is “a character who was much more [thor’s] equal”

like…okay, I love valkyrie as much as the next girl and I am all about butch warrior women but maybe let’s think about what you’re saying about jane there because it sounds a lot like odin’s “goat at a banquet” comment

Also, isn’t it ironic that this kind viewpoint is exactly what Jane was fighting against in the movies? She was ridiculed for her research, almost laughed at by the other scientists (majority of them being men).

Because obviously a tiny human woman who works with her brain and not brawn is never going to be an equal a mighty Aesir warrior.

*facepalm*

He said what now!? Just when I think they can’t do sth worse…ok, as much as I hate comparisons, especially like this, but the sentence gives me toxic masculinity vibes.

Jane is the highly intelligent woman, who changed Thor from arrogant to humble. She was strong enough to stand the effects of an infinity stone, intelligent enough to find a way to defeat an ancient being who was wielding the said infinity stone. At the same time she was compassionate and brave. She is equal to Thor if not superior. The only aspect they are not equal is the physical strength and their life span.

Valkyrie on the other hand is the woman that Thor inspires to change. She was capturing and selling slaves, living a pointless life until Thor comes and changes everything. They are equal in physical strength and life span.

There was another woman in Thor’s life who was completely Thor’s equal in everything. Lady Sif. Another strong woman who proved that a woman can be the fiercest warrior.

Isn’t it ironic that amongst these three women the one who is considered Thor’s equal by MCU’s president, is the one Thor helps to find herslef again, not the other two who are successful and independent without Thor’s help? Doesn’t it scream toxic masculinity that they prefer a female character beside their male hero who needs the said hero’s help?

It says a lot that Feige has such a narrow conception of what makes a “strong female character.” Apparently only men are allowed to solve problems with intellect rather than brute force and still be considered badass.

Also note that Sif shut Thor down when he tried to claim credit for her success (in the first “Thor” movie).

It would be nice if Marvel could show us more romances where neither partner needs to “save” the other, because both gender variants play into toxic heteronormative tropes.

foundlingmother:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

philosopherking1887:

tobetterourselves:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

foundlingmother:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

cathartic discussion time for all my loki stans: how the fuck is he going to be killed 

Thanos seems to have the Power Stone when he arrives on Earth via the portal. I imagine he uses that. Or perhaps Corvus Glaive skewers Loki with his pike.

And he defo dies protecting Thor in some way. I will accept nothing else (not that I’m accepting it anyways).

that’s such shit though he already “died” protecting Thor and I’d like to think that Thor and Loki are equals and that neither of them should have to die for each other to prove themselves 

*raises hands* I agree with you. I also think it would be a massive waste to kill Loki in Infinity Wars. His connection to Thanos would make for an interesting bit of plot, and I wonder if it will be addressed at all with him dead (which he most certainly will be, probably in the first five minutes).

Well, at least if Loki’s connection with Thanos is never addressed/explained, then Abyss will never become defunct (and I don’t have to finish it before Infinity War comes out, which is probably not going to happen anyway).

Okay my prediction is that Loki won’t die. I know that in the promos we’ve only seen him in that one scene, which doesn’t bode well.

But what if it’s because showing him later in the movie would be a spoiler?

Maybe:

– Loki will give the Tesseract to Thanos, but then it will be revealed at the dramatic conclusion that he had a devious plan to help the Avengers all along.

– We and/or Thor will think Loki is dead, but he’s actually alive and working for Thanos, giving a dramatic reveal when Loki turns up for the final battle.

I have about 80% confidence that Loki will die at some point in the movie, but I’m only at 50% that he’ll die in the first 5 minutes.

If Loki does not die in the first 5 minutes, I’m voting for some combination of the options you outline above: Thor (and possibly the audience) thinks Loki is dead, and he appears to be working for Thanos either when he shows up in the final battle or (if the audience knows he’s alive) during the time between his separation from Thor and the final battle. But then at some point in the final battle he reveals that he was planning to double-cross Thanos all along.

I hate to rain on everyone’s parade (all evidence to the contrary–my meta is one giant storm over parades of people who actually enjoy Ragnarok, and other Marvel movies occasionally), but what possible reason does Thanos have to trust/recruit Loki? Loki lost one of the Infinity Stones. Even if he gives the Tesseract over, the Mind Stone’s still gone, and Thanos may even know about Loki’s part in keeping the Aether from him.

Much as Loki playing double agent sounds cool to me, it just doesn’t seem likely. Thanos would seem stupid, weak, and desperate to trust someone that failed him before, and I’m pretty sure even Marvel knows that.

The reason I think Loki might be apparently allied with Thanos is not so much because Thanos has reason to trust him as because of something Kevin Feige said, reported in this article from The Mary Sue. (Ignore some of the other obnoxious things in the article, including calling Taika Waititi “our Lord and savior.” *shudder* *barf*) If you watch the video, the relevant portion starts at 1:57.

This also supports the hypothesis that Loki will eventually die in the movie, because Feige says he “might show up for a while.” “A while” does seem to suggest longer than 5 minutes, but who knows.

@led-lite

Hmmm… Again, much as the double agent thing is cool, I think it would undermine Thanos’ character (which has thus far been characterized by his brutality even to his minions/allies/children).

Now, if Thanos knows that Loki knows where the Aether is, but not where Loki sent it (which seems odd, but it could be possible), I could see him keeping him around until he… talks… (at which point I think I’d prefer him dying in the first five minutes–death is preferable to more torture)

But who knows. Maybe Marvel will find a way for Loki to convince Thanos he’s tots on his side, and we’ll get the double agent plot line with or without a heroic death later in the film.

They haven’t had a problem with undermining Thanos’s character before… he came off looking pretty fucking incompetent in Guardians of the Galaxy.

Hmm, interesting thought about keeping Loki around to tell him where the Aether is. I don’t think Marvel will show or even imply any really gruesome torture; probably just more electrocution or something. (Thor and Thanos have something in common!) But they’re definitely going for a darker, grimmer (or even grimdark) tone for this movie, so I certainly wouldn’t put it past them.

Or maybe Loki will pretend to be cooperating so he doesn’t get tortured. We can hope.

foundlingmother:

philosopherking1887:

tobetterourselves:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

foundlingmother:

foundlingmother:

taranoire:

cathartic discussion time for all my loki stans: how the fuck is he going to be killed 

Thanos seems to have the Power Stone when he arrives on Earth via the portal. I imagine he uses that. Or perhaps Corvus Glaive skewers Loki with his pike.

And he defo dies protecting Thor in some way. I will accept nothing else (not that I’m accepting it anyways).

that’s such shit though he already “died” protecting Thor and I’d like to think that Thor and Loki are equals and that neither of them should have to die for each other to prove themselves 

*raises hands* I agree with you. I also think it would be a massive waste to kill Loki in Infinity Wars. His connection to Thanos would make for an interesting bit of plot, and I wonder if it will be addressed at all with him dead (which he most certainly will be, probably in the first five minutes).

Well, at least if Loki’s connection with Thanos is never addressed/explained, then Abyss will never become defunct (and I don’t have to finish it before Infinity War comes out, which is probably not going to happen anyway).

Okay my prediction is that Loki won’t die. I know that in the promos we’ve only seen him in that one scene, which doesn’t bode well.

But what if it’s because showing him later in the movie would be a spoiler?

Maybe:

– Loki will give the Tesseract to Thanos, but then it will be revealed at the dramatic conclusion that he had a devious plan to help the Avengers all along.

– We and/or Thor will think Loki is dead, but he’s actually alive and working for Thanos, giving a dramatic reveal when Loki turns up for the final battle.

I have about 80% confidence that Loki will die at some point in the movie, but I’m only at 50% that he’ll die in the first 5 minutes.

If Loki does not die in the first 5 minutes, I’m voting for some combination of the options you outline above: Thor (and possibly the audience) thinks Loki is dead, and he appears to be working for Thanos either when he shows up in the final battle or (if the audience knows he’s alive) during the time between his separation from Thor and the final battle. But then at some point in the final battle he reveals that he was planning to double-cross Thanos all along.

I hate to rain on everyone’s parade (all evidence to the contrary–my meta is one giant storm over parades of people who actually enjoy Ragnarok, and other Marvel movies occasionally), but what possible reason does Thanos have to trust/recruit Loki? Loki lost one of the Infinity Stones. Even if he gives the Tesseract over, the Mind Stone’s still gone, and Thanos may even know about Loki’s part in keeping the Aether from him.

Much as Loki playing double agent sounds cool to me, it just doesn’t seem likely. Thanos would seem stupid, weak, and desperate to trust someone that failed him before, and I’m pretty sure even Marvel knows that.

The reason I think Loki might be apparently allied with Thanos is not so much because Thanos has reason to trust him as because of something Kevin Feige said, reported in this article from The Mary Sue. (Ignore some of the other obnoxious things in the article, including calling Taika Waititi “our Lord and savior.” *shudder* *barf*) If you watch the video, the relevant portion starts at 1:57.

This also supports the hypothesis that Loki will eventually die in the movie, because Feige says he “might show up for a while.” “A while” does seem to suggest longer than 5 minutes, but who knows.

@led-lite

led-lite replied to your photo “foundlingmother:
latent-thoughts:

mastreworld:

samanthastar47:
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I don’t think Tessa Thompson would have been super proud of engaging talks with Feige re: An all female super MCU teamup movie if she knew *her* character was immediately doomed. That said Loki + Asgard are all dead fer sure.

Oh, I must have missed that interview, @led-lite. That’s kind of reassuring. I’m pretty sure Loki is going to die at some point in the movie, but I’m still holding onto the fragile hope that he won’t die right at the beginning.

From Entertainment Weekly’s interview with Kevin Feige:

One criticism you’ve gotten is when somebody dies in a Marvel movie, they tend to come back in some way. If it happens, will it be for real this time?
Yes. I mean, I could always list off the characters that we’ve killed in our movies that haven’t come back, but the big ones, which I know they’re looking at …? [Pause.] I would just say, yes. People need to be careful what they wish for.

Loki is so, so dead. I just hope he’ll have a chance to do some cool stuff before he dies. And that he’ll die doing something epic.

FOR THE RECORD

makerofrunevests:

makerofrunevests:

thortunes:

Kevin Feige recently confirmed that LOKI IS/WAS A GOOD KING.

Source: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1714409/what-happened-to-sif-after-thor-the-dark-world-according-to-kevin-feige

Mr. Feige also says that “probably” Sif isn’t in the movie because Loki banished her.

This fits with how Asgard looks like it’s quite peaceful and prosperous before Hela comes–peaceful and prosperous and more beautiful than ever.

YES YES YES YES YES

I feel vindicated.