Okay but Ego was super impressed about hearing that Peter could hold an Infnity Stone, even for a couple minutes, and said he had to be his son, had to be a Celestia to survive that.
Well Jane was possed by one for a few day, so who the Hell is she related too?
Low-key, since she a Peter are basically the same age, Iām gonna headcanon now Ego got busy with some other Earth lady (you can say Ego loves Meredith, but I mean, cheating is a thing, and how much love do we really think that psycopathic planet really had in him). And, also, like, her mom died of cancer in the comics when she was nine, just like with Peter in the movies, Iām just saying. Theyāre totally half siblings, fight me.
An explanation for why Yondu didnāt go pick her up along with Peter though, is maybe he told Ego heād only pick up one kid at a time (since Ravagers apparently arenāt even supposed to deal with kids at all), and then while he had Peter, figured out what was happening to Egoās kids, so obviously didnāt go back to Earth at any point to have gotten her.
This theory is incredibly intriguing. Now Iām trying to remember if we ever learned anything about Janeās fatherā¦.
Only, I think, that he was friends with Selvig, and (maybe) a scientist too (in the comics heās a plumber),
But I dont think its a stretch to imagine Janeās mom could have thought sheād never see Ego again, and when she ended up with another guy, that guy was around for her and Jane, and became Janeās father and who she called dad regardless of blood relation.
(Ive been thinking about this theory non-stop since I thought of it last night. Could you imagine how dumb Odin would feel realised he didnāt think a Celestial was worthy of his Son)
Considering how Odin treated his own second son and underestimated him at everything, itās definitely not something he would have anticipated.
My goodness, does it make sense though. Jane Foster as half Celestial. Iām taking this theory now. Thatās incredible. That would also make her and Peter Quill half siblings. Peter Quill would have a sister haha.
Could you imagine after everyone found out and theyāre just looking between Peter and Jane like āhow?ā
But also, I think Jane would be the younger sister, and we know Peterās all about Classic Family Tropes (Play catch with his dad lmao) so heād totally be all over Thor when he finds out they used to date, like āDonāt even look at my sister dude, you lost all privilege when you broke her heart!ā
āshe broke up with me!ā
āYou abandond her to go planet hopping!ā
āBecause your girlfriend dad was trying to murder the universe!ā
(Nebula and Loki in the back ground like āi hate this family so muchā)
Answering your previous question(s) will involve digging up some old posts where Iāve addressed/ranted about what I think was going on with Lokiās death in Infinity War, so Iāll deal with that tomorrow (I hope). This oneās a little more straightforward.
To set the record straight: disliking Ragnarok on the whole does not mean that I dislike every single thing about it; itās just that I donāt feel like I need to add a disclaimer specifying what I didnāt hate every time I want to make an argument regarding what I thought was bad. I do like Valkyrie (or Brunnhilde, rather, since thatās her name). The things I like about her are probably the usual things that are cited when people talk about how awesome she was: a woman of color was allowed to inhabit an archetype thatās usually reserved for men; she wasnāt over-sexualized; the possibility of romance with Thor was allowed to remain a mere suggestion. Sheās a morally flawed badass, which is great.
Iām also not thrilled that Valkyrie has been presented both by Marvel and by the fandom as aĀ āreplacementā for Jane Foster ā nay, as an upgrade, whoāsĀ āmore equalā to Thor (per Kevin Feige) and also better in social justice terms because sheās not white (according to Tumblr). That, however, is not a mark against Valkyrie as a character. I just donāt like the way sheās been implicitly or explicitly opposed to Jane, as if youāre only allowed to like one. They have different strengths; Janeās strength is her intellect, and as a 5ā²1ā³ academic who most certainly cannot beat people up, that appeals to me. I also donāt think thereās anything wrong with Thor being attracted to a woman for her intelligence and creativity rather than her warriorās prowess. I wish the two characters had been allowed to coexist. With Jane and Darcy unceremoniously booted, Iām pretty sure Ragnarok, unlike the previous two Thor films, does not pass the Bechdel test.
As to where Brunnhilde is now⦠I think IW didnāt address it because the writers didnāt totally know what was going on with Ragnarok and also were lazy/didnāt care. My headcanon is that Thor ordered her to lead the Asgardian civilians who couldnāt fight due to age or disability onto whatever lifeboats/escape pods were on the Ark and then protect them wherever they ended up.
the fact that people only see Janeās (potential) return will āruinā Thorās character is hilarious and offending at the same time. Girl is an astrophysicist, girl is an expert in quantum physics and space, girl had been a host for an infinity stone and survived. She has knowledge and experience to bring to the table, she is HER OWN CHARACTER and she is NOT defined by Thor or anyone. You all fake feminists praising Thor for being a feminist, for supporting women, and then you turn around and reduce Jane Foster, the worldās foremost astronomer,Ā to Thorās ex who will ruin his character. I see you there.
Iām also not sure where all thisĀ āThor is a feministā stuff came from other than that really weird rambly bit in Ragnarok, which did not strike me as remotely genuine. Like, itās cool if you all headcanon that heās a big feminist, and since I like him as a character pre-Ragnarok Iād like to think he is (except for that attempt to take credit for Sifās success when she was introduced in Thor 1), but I regard that trope the same way I do the thing about Thor being obsessed with Pop-Tarts: a throwaway bit of canon that fanon blew out of proportion.
The best part is that there are SO MANY DISASTERS IN THE MCU that there could legitimately be like eight to twelve teams of absolute failures attempting and failing to survive basic tasks.
Like, you have the people who are good at undercover high-level spy work but not really at humaning.
You have the people excellent at science but completely unprepared to take care of anything in their own lives.
You have the people who otherwise seem competent but see nothing wrong with throwing themselves from great heights without a parachute because fuck gravity, I guess, they have superserum or wings and that makes it totally fine.
You have the people just totally unfamiliar with earth.
Jane Foster has a mild manifestation of bipolar disorder type II; when she gets hypomanic, her obsession with science becomes hyperfocused to the point of recklessness (driving into a storm, breaking into a SHIELD facility, jumping through a wormhole, etc.), but when her depression sets in, sheās barely functional. Sheās been very good at hiding this from her colleagues due to the stigma around it.Ā
i donāt care how much you love valkyrie. using her existence as a reason to talk about how much you hate jane is misogynistic.
before i get hate for this, let me explain.
yes, valkyrie is important. having a black woman being a lead character and a warrior and a love interest and bisexual (although it was never confirmed on screen) is important. iām not saying that at all! iām also not saying that valkyrie shouldnāt exist and we should just have jane.
what iām saying is that itās possible to have both, and the thing that pissed me off about ragnarok was that it spat in the face of that notion. itās possible to have two leading ladies with vastly different abilities and personalities. because thatās what women are! having more physical prowess doesnāt make you better and being smarter doesnāt make you better. but the mcu fandom acts like now that we have valkyrie, who is clearlyĀ (sarcasm) better because she is a more skilled fighter than jane, itās okay to completely forget about jane and sif (and darcy and frigga, for that matter). itās now okay to sayĀ āoh jane wasnāt that great of a character i donāt like her but i love valkyrie so iām #wokeā and thatās not okay. jane is a BRILLIANT scientist who has won a nobel prize and she was the first female scientist in the mcu as well as the only female scientist with a recurring role until black panther! (i could talk about how fandom forgets maya hansen and helen cho too, but thatās for another post.)
jane is a character who gets an unfair amount of hate because sheās not a fighter. fandom decided she wasnāt a ~strong female character~ and now takes every opportunity to shit on her. jane and thor shouldnāt have to be romantically involved for her to get to be on screen. jane couldāve used her brain to help in ragnarok. they needed to escape sakaar, right? well thatās kinda janeās specialty! and instead they just wrote her out with a disrespectful, throwaway line, and made a joke about an anus.
they couldāve easily picked up jane on earth when they visited benadryl cumberbatch and consulted with her. valkyrie still couldāve been the warrior and the love interest. but no, we canāt have more than two women in a movie can we? itās not like the first two thor movies had FOUR leading women. sayingĀ āoh we have valkyrie nowā doesnāt make it okay to disregard established female characters. your misogyny is showing.
iād go into the fact that valkyrie isnāt even given a goddamn name in ragnarok, but iām too damn tired. fandom thinks jane is justĀ thorās love interest played by natalie portman. now that thor has another love interest and natalie portman doesnāt want to come back, they think itās okay to hate her. no, itās not. just recast the part (like youāve done with rhodey and bruce) and let her be a scientist. thatās it.
I donāt think the MCU grasps the concept of how important this is.
This was back in Thor 1 in 2011. Jane had a working prototype bifrost in 2011.
That was seven years ago. That was before she had the money, recognition and resources to complete a fully functional one.
SHE BUILT A CUSTOM BIFROST THAT REACHED ASGARD WITH ONLY HER ENGINEERING AND IDEAS ALONE!
Can you imagine what she has built now?! She is the worldās leading astrophysicist. She was nominated for a Nobel prize! She saved the world from Dark Elves in The Dark World with her science!!!!
This is the woman Thor fell for. This is the woman that Loki risked his life twice for.
She needs to meet the Guardians of the Galaxy. She needs to. Just meeting them would be the most exciting thing for her.
Okay but Ego was super impressed about hearing that Peter could hold an Infnity Stone, even for a couple minutes, and said he had to be his son, had to be a Celestia to survive that.
Well Jane was possed by one for a few day, so who the Hell is she related too?
Low-key, since she a Peter are basically the same age, Iām gonna headcanon now Ego got busy with some other Earth lady (you can say Ego loves Meredith, but I mean, cheating is a thing, and how much love do we really think that psycopathic planet really had in him). And, also, like, her mom died of cancer in the comics when she was nine, just like with Peter in the movies, Iām just saying. Theyāre totally half siblings, fight me.
An explanation for why Yondu didnāt go pick her up along with Peter though, is maybe he told Ego heād only pick up one kid at a time (since Ravagers apparently arenāt even supposed to deal with kids at all), and then while he had Peter, figured out what was happening to Egoās kids, so obviously didnāt go back to Earth at any point to have gotten her.
This theory is incredibly intriguing. Now Iām trying to remember if we ever learned anything about Janeās fatherā¦.
Only, I think, that he was friends with Selvig, and (maybe) a scientist too (in the comics heās a plumber),
But I dont think its a stretch to imagine Janeās mom could have thought sheād never see Ego again, and when she ended up with another guy, that guy was around for her and Jane, and became Janeās father and who she called dad regardless of blood relation.
(Ive been thinking about this theory non-stop since I thought of it last night. Could you imagine how dumb Odin would feel realised he didnāt think a Celestial was worthy of his Son)
Considering how Odin treated his own second son and underestimated him at everything, itās definitely not something he would have anticipated.
My goodness, does it make sense though. Jane Foster as half Celestial. Iām taking this theory now. Thatās incredible. That would also make her and Peter Quill half siblings. Peter Quill would have a sister haha.
Could you imagine after everyone found out and theyāre just looking between Peter and Jane like āhow?ā
But also, I think Jane would be the younger sister, and we know Peterās all about Classic Family Tropes (Play catch with his dad lmao) so heād totally be all over Thor when he finds out they used to date, like āDonāt even look at my sister dude, you lost all privilege when you broke her heart!ā
āshe broke up with me!ā
āYou abandond her to go planet hopping!ā
āBecause your girlfriend dad was trying to murder the universe!ā
(Nebula and Loki in the back ground like āi hate this family so muchā)
It is the exact opposite of feminist to celebrate when a female character is ejected from a story. The Marvel fandom celebrated for one reason: it hates women, full stop.
āit made sure we wouldnāt have a forced heterosexual romance!ā like⦠bitch. If the only way you can rationalize not having sexist tropes in a het romance is toā¦straight up get rid of the women then y’all aināt feminist and itās exhausting
jane foster and thor were the least forced romance but sure, letās celebrate when marvel is shit to their actresses as well as their characters