Thor was a victim of Odin’s abuse and brainwashing too, so maybe try not to blame him for thinking Loki was beyond hope because when a parent you’ve been raised to trust tells you that, you’re inclined to believe them
“Thor was a victim of Odin’s abuse and brainwashing too”
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, because being the golden child that everyone loves totally isthe same as being the scapegoat outcast whose father literally said his birthright was to die and then locked him in the dungeons for what was meant to be the rest of his life with no content with the outside world.
*snort*
Sure, Thor was totally abused too xD
Not all abuse follows the same pattern and no one is saying Thor was abused to the same degree as Loki was.
Let’s look at the 3rd child, Hela, because her abuse has most in common with Thor. Odin seemed to treat her well and judging from the friezes she uncovered, they seem to show she was respected by Asgard, ruling at Odin’s side. She was given the same weapon as Thor and raised to be a warmonger than Odin could unleash on his enemies.
But he had moulded her into a mass murderer. Do you doubt that doing that to a child is abusive?
It doesn’t excuse what she did, just as Loki’s abuse doesn’t excuse what he did, but it does help you understand why these things happened.
As for Thor, he basically got the Hela-lite treatment. He was raised to love war and fighting, he was even raised to be a cold-blooded killer (just look what he did on Jotunheim), just not to the same degree that Hela was.
Neither Thor and Hela were raised to have introspection, given the ability to question their actions, thoughts, or beliefs.
And when they did what they had been raised to do (wage war) but without Odin’s permission, both were banished.
None of his children were raised with their best interests at heart. Rather, they were turned into what Odin wanted them to be. He viewed them as extensions of himself that he could do what he wanted with, rather than as people in their own right.
Nothing about this is healthy parenting. Nothing about this raises well-rounded adults. He has damaged all his children via the emotional abuse used to turn them into what he wanted them to be.
Thor was able to overcome his abuse and become a wise, rounded adult (well, ish. He succeeded as long as you ignore the BS that was Ragnarok).
Although it wasn’t shown onscreen, Loki seems to have taken strides too, not to overcome the abuse perse, but to become his own person, who he wants to be rather than who Odin wanted him to be, or a rebellion against who Odin wanted him to be.
Some of Odin’s children received different kinds and different levels of abuse, but they were all abused.
Thanos is a weak ass bitch of a villain because ever since killmonger I need all my villains to pull up with some style, looks, a certain je ne sais quoi. Killmonger stole a thousand year old artifact and wore it as armor and wore solid gold fangs. What did Thanos wear? The same body armor for hundreds of years and a dumb glove that wasn’t even designer
People are all like “he’s an alien” like so was Hela and she pulled up with some iconic goth looks, Chanel horned helmet, a beautiful smokey eye, nails that could cut diamonds, Thanos has no excuse fashion is universal
even the human bad guys have more swagger, tbh. obidiah stane was The Dude, and alexander pierce is evil Robert Woodward.
Thanos isn’t even mickey rooney.
If your competition includes Loki in That Suit in “The Avengers,” you really gotta step up your game.
The version of Thor Ragnarok I really want is where Ragnarok happens and then Odin dies, so Hela comes out of her prison like “can’t wait to recharge my energy on Asgard where the fuck is asgard”, so instead of being the villain of the movie, she’s at best minor antagonist impotently trying to summon enough magic to do any cool shit while Thor forcibly tries sibling bonding because he’s not letting another sibling go down a dark path
“I already went down a dark path, you idiot, I was your father’s executioner, I killed millions”
“yeah but like a darker path. you know. like a recently dark path.”
“you know our new sibling’s mass murder does put my whole “““conquer earth”“““ thing in context don’t you think”
“shut up loki”
“yeah shut up loki you didn’t even succeed”
“hela you know that’s not why we’re mad about loki’s conquering scheme”
“weak lil mischief bro couldn’t even conquer midgard, a planet asgard like already conquered a billion years ago”
“don’t pick on our little brother”
“loki is a punk ass book jockey and I wish I was back in prison”
Loki is the Philosopher King 