i don’t believe in the old “ooh directors are in charge of every aspect of a movie” chestnut but damn the russo brothers on this press tour rn are exhibiting roughly the behavior of two frat bros laughing about what “total bitches” their girlfriends are directly outside and in hearing distance of the dorm room of the aforementioned girlfriends. like what kind of weird postgame victory lap is this I’ve never seen anything like it….i would ask why they keep shitting where they eat so intensely but marvel made its coin regardless so saying whatever to the fans doesn’t matter now i guess
marvel made its coin regardless so saying whatever to the fans doesn’t matter now i guess
Marvel has never given a shit about their fans. The number of people who stay obsessed with the movies/characters, who write fic, make vids, roleplay, cosplay, and buy merch is a pretty small percentage of the people who actually go see the movies. Why the fuck do they need to care what we want or think?
Until further notice, I have decided that in the fictional world of the MCU, “Infinity War” did not happen. Neither did “Thor: Ragnarok.” I don’t know exactly what did happen because I don’t know how to write comic book movie plots, but it’s vaguely like all my most hopeful imaginings of what the movies would be like. It’s like an author died before finishing a series and left very scant notes on what was coming next.
In the real world, the movies do exist, and I will continue to express my anger at Taika Waititi, Chris Hemsworth, Markus & McFeely, the Russo brothers, and Kevin Feige when I feel it would be helpful to vent. But their work is like that unauthorized second part of Don Quixote: an absurd forgery that has marred the reputations of the characters and of the real artist(s) who created them.
While I’m at it, I might as well add “Captain America: Civil War” to the list. I don’t know exactly what Tony and Steve fought about, but it was a lot more substantive than the personal vendetta crap those hacks gave us. Though maybe we should be glad they didn’t try to touch on serious issues about right to privacy vs. right to know and voluntary vs. involuntary enhancement, since they think (their version of) Steve’s self-certainty is moral courage while Tony’s doubt is sin, and when they try to go “philosophical,” they give us Thanos’s Malthusian bullshit and try to convince us it’s compelling and sympathetic.
Until further notice, I have decided that in the fictional world of the MCU, “Infinity War” did not happen. Neither did “Thor: Ragnarok.” I don’t know exactly what did happen because I don’t know how to write comic book movie plots, but it’s vaguely like all my most hopeful imaginings of what the movies would be like. It’s like an author died before finishing a series and left very scant notes on what was coming next.
In the real world, the movies do exist, and I will continue to express my anger at Taika Waititi, Chris Hemsworth, Markus & McFeely, the Russo brothers, and Kevin Feige when I feel it would be helpful to vent. But their work is like that unauthorized second part of Don Quixote: an absurd forgery that has marred the reputations of the characters and of the real artist(s) who created them.
So even if Loki comes back at the end of Avengers 4 can we all agree on what a horrible waste of writing sidelining/killing him in the first 15 minutes of this movie was? Where are my continued petty exchanges with Strange? Taking Wanda under his wing? Teaming up with Gamora and Nebula to take down their abuser? Being Stabby BFFs with Nebula? Fighting side by side by Thor and the other Avengers he tried to take down however many movies ago? Like just imagine Steve’s face when Loki blocks an attack meant for him. Amazing.
We could have taken this atonement/reconciliation deal and taken it full circle, defending a planet Purple Testicle made him invade in the first place. Like…how is killing him in the first 15 minutes anywhere close to the most interesting choice we could have done with this character?
*rolls eyes* I really, really don’t care what the Russos are saying. Most of Marvel can’t tell a good story to save their life and can’t identify what makes their characters interesting. I mean, these are the same people who shove Bucky into everything, yet never develop his character. These are the same people who think one of Cap’s best qualities is his unwillingness to consider he might be wrong. They are a bunch of idiotic white cisgender men pandering to idiotic white cisgender men. They can all suck my dick.
I’m going to ignore whatever ridiculous fucking end they force Thor to be content with, and ignore their depowering of Loki. They have nothing but contempt for the characters I love, and, in turn, I have nothing but contempt for the stories they create.
The only reason I care is that it tells me what to expect… and confirms me in my suspicions about their contempt for Loki, Hiddleston, and fans of both (the character and the actor).
Does this mean that people on this hellsite will stop fawning over the Russo brothers (and by extension Markus and McFeely)?
LGBTQIA+ people don’t watch Marvel movies, right? It’s not one of your largest demographics, right? We wouldn’t want to see a bisexual character (Valkyrie) or a gender fluid character (Loki) right???
Also $20 says that they cut Valkyrie’s bisexual confirmation in Ragnarök because they want Thorkyrie to be endgame so that Thor can be all happy with his new girlfriend and ~100 of his people left living. Who cares about his brother and the rest of his people, right???
Betting against this would not be a safe bet.
here’s the thing, though, marvel.
come closer.
*whispers* she could have been in love with a woman in her past and still ended up with thor. i don’t think you understand what being bisexual means.
But if Thor isn’t looking on saying “nice” what is even the point of his pretty girl kissing another pretty girl, @tegary?
A couple of thoughts I had after I listened to this interview by Russos:
– If you’re killing off a character, and audience doesn’t believe it, you’re doing something wrong.
– If you’re killing off a character, and have to break the 4th wall by using another character as your voice to tell the audience this is true, you’re doing something wrong.
– If you have to do the previous twice, you’re doing something wrong.
– If you have to kill of 7/8 of a race to make your character more interesting and human, you’re doing something wrong.
– If you think you have to kill the character to complete their arc, you’re wrong.
All of this infuriates me. You can’t just ignore the fact that Loki has a huge fanbase just because you don’t want them to exist, especially when they are partially responsible for the success of the franchise.
Tom would not throw away the years of work he put in his character? With such a simple death …. the God of Mischief thrown away like that?……. ;_;
I have never heard Tom say that… although after what Ragnarok did to his character and all the work he put into developing it, I wouldn’t be all that surprised. Tom’s good work in The Avengers was a major part of what got the MCU off the ground, but they’ve made clear recently how little value they place on the character and on Tom’s acting ability.
I’m starting to think that Loki (before TR) was a literary character who got misplaced in a popular action film franchise.
Loki is the Philosopher King 