ms-cellanies:
lucianalight:
philosopherking1887:
Unpopular/extremely weird opinion: Ultron was a more sympathetic villain than Thanos (and no one was even trying to make Ultron sympathetic).
Ultron’s motives are understandable and he is sympathetic. While Thanos is just a stupid disgusting abuser.
With you @philosopherking1887. The discussion between Ultron and Vision at the end of the film – they basically agreed on the same premise but Ultron was the pessimist/glass half empty & Vision was the optimist/glass half full. Ultimately, the difference between a screenwriter with a vision/purpose/coherent message & ones who didn’t.
@living-in-an-alternate-universe , @loxxxlay, @maneth985, @juliabohemian: I explained my reasoning in a post I made shortly after Infinity War came out; it’s here. Someone found it and liked it yesterday, which is why I was reminded of how much more interesting Ultron is.
@ms-cellanies, I’m not sure it’s a matter of pessimism vs. optimism, exactly… well, you can read my long post for my thoughts on the crucial difference between Ultron and Vision. But you are entirely correct on the difference between the screenwriters – and it’s also, I think, the difference between a screenwriter with a philosophical education and ones who maybe read the Wikipedia article on Ayn Rand once. It’s just as unfortunate that they ended up writing Vision in his subsequent screen appearances (Civil War and Infinity War) as that they tried to write a pseudo-philosophical rationale for Thanos. Joss Whedon knows how to write slightly inhuman, uncanny, but recognizable thought processes; Markus & McFeely just gave us “I am a robot meep-meep-moop.”
Loki is the Philosopher King 