Tag: avengers 4

lucianalight:

shine-of-asgard:

shine-of-asgard:

I’ve read some spoilers going around for IW2 and let me tell you: they sound both credible and barf-worthy. If you think you hated what the Russo did with Loki in IW1 believe me, the spoilers for the future are worse.

First of all, i’d like to say sorry for upsetting anyone. I was upset myself, still am. The link is under, read at your own discretion. I found the info credible as it’s in line with some other spoilers posted before by people who were somewhat credible about IW1. It has bits about many characters and (for the first time) stuff about Loki in IW2 that is in accord to the photos taken during filming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/8kybhi/avengers_4_info/

This settles it.

NO MARVEL THIS TIME.

Marvel is dead. Long live Loki.

“Later, Loki reconvenes with Thanos and explains they have uncovered his machination to collect the stones, so he acts sooner”???

WTF?! Why would he do that? Is that supposed to be while Loki is still on Earth and corresponding occasionally with the Other, before the Avengers defeat him? Or does he do this when he’s back on Asgard? If the latter, why the fuck would he still be helping Thanos??

I already thought Markus & McFeely were dimwitted hacks, but honestly… they have a consistent habit of throwing character out the window for the sake of plot machinations and/or action setpieces.

The Grand Infinity War Theory

loki-friggason:

rocket-roquill-raccoon:

My current theory for Avengers 4 and Dr. Strange’s plan has come down to the following points you need to pay attention to.

1. Gamora’s soul is bound to the soul stone.
She was bound because she was sacrificed in exchange for the stone.

2. After The Snap, Thanos found himself at a quiet, orange colored, watery place, where he briefly speaks to Gamora as a child. This place was inside the soul stone, and it was Gamora’s soul. Note that the color fits.

3. Everyone who became dust and Gamora’s soul can be saved. Other manual deaths may be permanent.

4. Dr. Strange has seen the one possible future where the heroes succeed. Strange is planning to set up everything so that this timeline occurs.

5. Likely on Titan, Dr. Strange travels into the past via the Time Gem and recruits Heimdall, The Hulk and possibly Loki.

6a. The Hulk is crucial for the victory timeline, and he must do something at the right moment. For this reason, Heimdall sacrificed himself to send Hulk back to Earth, and Hulk refuses to show himself until the time is right. If Loki was recruited as well, his job was to ensure Thor’s survival, because he is crucial for the victory timeline.

6b. Note that Dr. Strange had Heimdall send Hulk to himself on Earth, so Strange knew beforehand that someone had sent Hulk, and he may have realized later that it was himself. This is how he knew what to do.

7. Dr. Strange sacrifices the Time Gem at to correct moment to save Tony, because Tony is required for the victory timeline, saying to Tony: “It was the only way.”

8. Furthering point 7, all the major technicians (Rocket, Tony, Bruce, Shuri) are still around. They may be required to combine their brilliance in order to beat Thanos.

9. For each infinity stone, a character sacrificed themselves or someone they loved, at least attempting to do so. These sacrifices usually happened in the presence of a particular stone. It may be that these sacrifices make different characters the real masters of the stones.

Power Gem: Groot sacrifices himself out of love (Guardians vol. 1)
Space Gem: Loki for Thor
Reality Gem: Quill -> Gamora (attempted in presence of the gem)
Soul Gem: Gamora -> herself (for Nebula, but not in presence of the gem)
Mind Gem: Wanda -> Vision
Time Gem: Strange -> unclear at this point (maybe himself & his duty)

Even with Dr. Strange’s sacrifice being unclear and Gamora not being in the presence of the soul gem, all of this is a pattern, and pattern implies purpose. This leads me to consider that these characters, when working together, have full control over all the stones, and the stones may refuse Thanos even if he wields them.

This theory is great because it explains why Heimdall sent Hulk to Earth instead of Thor, which didn’t make any sense to me. And also gives significance to Loki’s line “The sun will shine on us again.” Which is strange because how can Loki be so optimistic? Well, maybe because he is following Strange’s plan.

It would be great if the movie actually made this much sense… but often I think the fans put in more thought than the screenwriters do.

Oh I just remembered two other things I noticed about That Scene. First of all, that Loki disappeared during the Thanos/Hulk fight. Secondly, he surely wouldn’t be stupid enough to just try and stab Thanos after Thanos just destroyed the Hulk and has two infinity stones???? So either this is a case of spectacularly unbelievably bad writing or there was another endgame there. With Marvel it could go either way.

taranoire:

taranoire:

I’m really hoping there’s a good payoff for all of this pain. Even Game of Thrones eventually gives the audience a sense of justice for every atrocity committed.
I heard a rumor that A4 is going to be sort of a play on Return of the King, with Captain America / Iron Man playing Frodo and Sam and Thor playing Aragorn. And if that’s the case…..imagine the undead forces of Asgard smacking Thanos down into Hel. That would be amazing.
And then Loki comes back and he and Thor get married like at the end of ROTK the end

FYI: Loki and Frigga are both confirmed for a4. Which is……INTERESTING.

WAIT, WHAT??? Where did you read that? Please send link(s)!