Pinterest is a goldmine for seeing posts like this….
Sure. That’s why he spent 2 weeks secretly stealing acess codes to the ships to escape, andhad a plan to kill the psychotic leader, a plan that sounded like he had had for awhile, like 2 weeks. Sounds like he couldn’t wait to get the hell away from all that so called “love”, and was biding his time until the opportunity came.
The notion that Loki would feel at home on Sakaar because it is chaotic and lawless is based on Thor’s skewed perception of his brother. It is based on the premise that Loki is the god of mischief and thus, has had no deeper reasons for any of the things he’s done.
Which conflicts entirely with a huge chunk of the initial Thor film, that goes to a lot of trouble to set up Loki’s narrative, in which there is already an existing sibling rivalry and he is pushed over the edge by discovering that he was adopted.
Really he should be called the god of a lot of shitty things happened to me and I reacted badly…what can I say?
And then there was this interview, with this interesting little excerpt:
Thor: Ragnarok’s director Taika Waititi – New Zealander of the Year, blossoming fashion icon, and man of a thousand poses – is swift to launch into a description of Loki, the unbeloved son of Asgard, as, “someone who tries so hard to embody this idea of the tortured artist, this tortured, gothy orphan.”
“Swift to launch into” this description, huh? Kind of sounds like someone with an idée fixe, a preoccupation, a grudge… probably a secondhand grudge, on behalf of one Chris Hemsworth, but one he has made charmingly his own.
Queen Hatshepsut of Ancient Egypt. She has a lovely smile for someone who’s been dead for thousands of years.
she wasn’t a queen. she was a pharaoh and wanted to be referred to as such. she even had her statues modeled after the male pharaoh’s statues to state her dominance and authority. she was actually one of the most successful pharaohs in all of ancient egyptian history and she reigned longer than any other woman in power in egypt.
damn no wonder she died and smiled for a trillion years afterwards
The fact that we know about her is marvelous.
the next Pharaoh after her Tuthmosis III tried to erase Hatshepsut out of history ,chiseled her name off her monuments ,covered the text on her obelisks with stone,knocked down and defaced her statues .
she was even left off the list of pharaohs ..talk about some patriarchy bullshit
her name was lost for a couple of millennia, her body was found in a unmarked grave in early twentieth century
sad part is in Egyptian belief is if your are forgotten in the living world you don’t exist in the afterlife,so he was trying to kill her even in death
My best friend throwing down some herstory. A+ commentary
She wore a fake beard, you guys. She was the fucking boss.
If we remember her now does that save her from an awful afterlife?
I’m just picturing the Kemetic afterlife. All the Pharaohs are hanging out in some kind of swanky club, drinking and congratulating each other on being bros.
The doors slam open and Hatshepsut strides in, glorious, robes swirling, rocking the fake beard and the insane amounts of wealth and power. “Miss me, bitches?”
Then she punches Tuthmosis III straight in the dick.
Reblog so Hatshepsut can dick punch tuthmosis in the afterlife.
Loki of Thor1, Avengers and The Dark World. I identified with him in several ways, mostly because he was other. He was different, an outsider – as I was and am still.
Then along comes Ragnarok and a bunch of fans declare that they love this version. The version where his otherness is mocked and attacked. Where his pain is invalidated and his struggles deemed either unimportant or joke fodder. These people are saying they will not love Loki as he is, but they will ‘love’ him when he is flattened, confined, reduced to something unthreatening.
It feels very personal. I’m old enough and cynical enough to not let it hurt (much) but I have heard the message: to be loved, you cannot be other. It is a message I’ve heard all my life. And Ragnarok is a movie that embodies that nasty little message. Ragnarok-positive posts? Nails on a chalkboard most of the time. They’re certainly not a positive thing for me to see on my dash (Public blog, public space. Tumblr has tools to manage what we see. I use them, I’m ok.)
But to those people I follow who write wonderful thinky posts, you are treasured.
Loki fans from Ragnarok and people that are a fan of Loki character from another movies should be a two separated fandom.
I seriously think ao3 should provide tags to separate these two fandoms. It will save us lots of grief.
Oh my God, yes. And we should use different tags on Tumblr, too. I think my system of using Thor* and Loki* to designate their Ragnarok incarnations is very handy; it’s a lot easier for their side than typing ragnarok!thor. Or r-thor and r-loki, like using d- and l- to designate the different chiralities of enantiomers.
Thanks, @lostlokichaos. It’s always nice to know I’m not shouting into a void! And you’re right about invalidating Loki’s other-ness… which makes it ironic that the Ragnarok stans are constantly calling Loki* a “queer icon” and calling us (many of whom are queer) homophobic for not liking his stereotypical queer-coded villain/ effete limp-wristed sissy portrayal. It’s also utterly confusing that Taika keeps using “space orphan” as an insult. Why does being an orphan somehow reflect badly on Loki…? His story of being adopted (or kidnapped?) by a conquering society, raised in ignorance of his origin, and taught to fear and loathe the race he was born to should have played perfectly into the anti-imperialist theme that Ragnarok was (half-assedly) trying to get across; but apparently Taika despised Loki too much to be willing to put him on the oppressees’ side of the ledger, so he pooh-poohed the idea that it might be a source of genuine, justified distress or trauma.
The terrible interpretation of Loki’s character in Thor: Ragnarok
Things that Thor: Ragnarok director Taika Waititi said of Loki:
“Not to really wanna humiliate Loki all the way through the film, but because he was… most definitely overpowered Thor a lot in the other films in terms of presence and his story, and kind of overshadowed him a little bit… This one, it was just nice to kind of switch it around, after all the shitty things that Loki’s done in the last few films…” (Source: Empire Film Podcast)
“space orphan”
“someone who tries so hard to embody this idea of the tortured artist, this tortured, gothy orphan”
“…this little emo goth hanging out by himself. He was like the kid in Harry Potter [Malfoy].”
has been trying to kill Thor his entire life
A number of significant ways in which Loki’s character was retconned in Ragnarok:
1.
Tom: Loki’s death on Svartalfheim was written as a death, and Chris and I played that scene for real. That was meant to be sort of that he redeemed himself. He helped save his brother and helped save Jane Foster, but he, in the process, sacrificed himself.
Ragnarok!Thor: You FAKED your own death
2.
TDW!Thor: Loki, for all his grave imbalance, understood rule as I know I never will.
Ragnarok!Thor: And what do I find, but the Nine Realms completely in chaos. Enemies of Asgard assembling, plotting our demise, all while you, Odin, the protector of those Nine Realms, are sitting here in your bathrobe, eating grapes.
3.
Tom: The best thing about Loki is that if he is afraid he won’t show it. He’s been highly trained through the experience of his slightly traumatic life to shield his fear.
Loki in all other films:
Gagnarok!Loki:
Bonus:
“You’re a screw up, so whatever.”
I could have sworn I’d reblogged this before, but I couldn’t find it when I searched my blog. Tumblr’s search function is weirdly… non-functional. Thanks, @lokiloveforever, for finding this for me!
Anyway, yeah. Evidence that Taika did not like or understand Loki, regardless of what he may have told Tom over a bowl of pasta. It’s quite possible that Taika thinks he didn’t change Loki, because he thought his version of Loki (whiny, hedonistic, venally self-interested, pointlessly malicious, with no real problems or grievances to speak of) is who Loki always was. That means he was wrong about the Loki of the previous films. If Ragnarok fans prefer the new Loki, they can have him, I guess… but stop trying to make the case that he’s identical to the Loki of previous films, or that everyone before Taika somehow got him “wrong,” whatever that would mean. It’s not like Ragnarok!Loki is the Platonic Form of MCU Loki that all prior Lokis were only imperfectly striving toward, and it’s definitely controversial whether Ragnarok succeeded in portraying the Loki of recent comics (which I assume is what some people mean by “canon”… never mind that the various writers haven’t characterized him consistently) or of myth (which was definitely not the target…?).
I’ve seen a bunch of people asking about the massive amount of notes everyone is getting lately. It’s thanks to the new addition “Conversational Notes.”
Here’s where you find it.
Now, if you’re an unfortunate soul like me whose had this lovely button turned off since the little shit showed up and you’re still getting everyone’s dang notes you can do this:
Go into the notes and tap this little fucker and you’ll have a message pop up that you’ve been “unsubscribed” from the conversation.
Yes, you have to do this every time. Hopefully this issue is soon fixed.
This has been a PSA.
T~
Ughhhhh yes! Boosting.
And apparently this causes people who already don’t understand how Tumblr works to get even more confused and think you reblogged a post from them when you didn’t…
Loki is the Philosopher King 