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It disgusts me that Buffy never beat the living shit out of Xander after he yelled at her in 3×02 and not after Buffy finally found out Xander lied about Willow telling her to kick Angel’s ass. Joss Whedon’s scummy ass just loved putting himself in that character to put Buffy “in her place.” Scumbag. Xander never faced consequences and that was because Joss never did. Until the 2010’s came for ha white Thano’s looking ass.

Actually Joss is Buffy.

It was about four years after the end of the run of Buffy that I really just went “Oh, I was Buffy! The whole time.” I always thought I was Xander before he started getting laid. I’m the wacky sidekick. Then I had this shocking moment of idiotic revelation that I’d been writing about myself that whole time. -Joss Whedon

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It was about four years after the end of Buffy that I went, oh! I was Buffy the whole time. I [thought I was] Xander–before he started getting laid. It’s the best thing about the work. If you’re not writing about yourself, why are you writing? -Joss Whedon

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Which casts an exceptionally depressing light on the fact that Comics Buffy apparently can’t handle a long term relationship.

Also, really says a lot that you want a heroic character to beat the living shit out of someone for yelling and one lie. I mean, what does theft merit? Beheading? What if Xander had like, dared to lay a hand on her while yelling? Castration for sure.

There’s been rather a lot of “Any character who ever so much as looked cross-eyed at Buffy is scum who deserves to be BOILED IN LAVA and their fans should be pelted with fruits and various meats!” in the tags recently.

It seems to come in cycles. Someone dares to suggest her friends had the right idea once, and then all this for a while.

I honestly don’t get where it comes from. I mean, I love and protect my faves, but still, yeesh.

If you want a quote about Joss seeing himself in Buffy that’s more about Buffy than a guy he isn’t:

“Buffy went through a lot, but I always had a very firm base with her. She’s the guy you don’t see coming. She was my avatar. She was the girl in the picture. Whereas Angel was a straight-up hero, and that made him hard to write.” –Joss Whedon, Cultural Humanism Award Q/A

Also, feminists generally regard the trope of “male character does something skeezy to a female character, who responds with cartoonishly disproportionate violence to teach him a lesson” as misogynistic. Like, it essentially excuses bad behavior on the part of the male character and the male audience who would be presumed to use the character as an extension by including a built-in punishment mechanism. No lesson is taught, just a fee for bad behavior that is paid and moved past with the full intention of committing it again and paying the fee again. If Buffy really beat up Xander for bad behavior, the discourse would be about Joss Whedon thinking that a fee for bad behavior is an excuse for including it at all, and there’s already speculation that female characters beating up male characters is an expression of his masochistic desire instead of any real illustration of female empowerment. I feel like these kinds of criticisms are more about subjective emotional outbursts than any analytical appraisal of feminist storytelling.