goingrampant:

philosopherking1887:

philosopherking1887:

foundlingmother replied to your post “Still unfollowing people who post/reblog ill-informed kneejerk Whedon…”

It reminds me how desensitized people are to ableism in films and every day life. Ragnarok has a lot of ableism. I don’t think it’s meant to be hurtful, but then neither is any sexism in the Avengers movies. It’s just two different filmmakers with two different failings in social justice/morality. But Whedon gets rampant hate, while TW gets called a literal god. Tumblr culture is fucking scary…

Let’s not forget the homophobia in Thor: Ragnarok that has somehow been converted, by some strange Tumblrian alchemy, to groundbreakingly wonderful LGBT representation.

Although actually, @foundlingmother, in this instance it wasn’t anything about sexism, it was some bullshit about how Taika’s characterization of Thor and Loki was more “accurate” to Norse mythology while Joss was importing Christianity and portraying them as Jesus and the Devil and I was like… I could write a lengthy post about how off-base that analysis is and also how beside the point that would be as an assessment of MCU films even if it were accurate, or I could just unfollow the reblogger and block the post.

I haven’t read a lot of Marvel comics, but the original silver age comics Thor 1 was based on definitely had Loki as a Satan stand-in, so it’s possible that any sort of reading of Avengers Loki as Satan is based on the comics being adapted, if only through continuity from Thor 1.

I think it’s more accurate as an analysis of Thor 1, considering the Fall narrative that’s going on… but in that case, Thor is definitely not Jesus, because he’s far from perfect. But that still wouldn’t serve the desired purpose, because Joss Whedon didn’t write Thor 1, and the point was to condemn him for putting everything in Christian terms, while claiming that Taika (no doubt thanks to his unspoiled indigenous heritage) is somehow in touch with the Norse pagan spirit. Never mind that the written sources of Norse myth that we have are post-Christian, or that the entirety of modern European literature intervened between those sources and the Marvel comics, and that in any case the MCU characters are not supposed to be identical either to the mythical figures or to any particular iteration of the comics.

*screams*