saygoodbye-not-thisday:

philosopherking1887:

I saw a post lamenting that there isn’t more “in-depth positive discussion” of Thor: Ragnarok from people other than anti-Loki Thor stans and Thorki shippers (who are probably also, incidentally, more Thor than Loki fans) and I’m like…

I kind of want to reblog with the observation that, from my own experience and that of others whose commentary I’ve seen, it’s possible to stay positive about the movie only if you don’t think very hard about it: a number of people who liked it initially (myself included) soured on it as soon as they started thinking seriously about its treatment of the characters, and some people have said that they’re deliberately avoiding thinking very deeply about it because they want to be able to keep enjoying it. But I also don’t want the OP to block me because I like their art, so I think I’d better not.

*shrugs* Thanks, but… You could have commented if you wanted to? I haven’t blocked anyone for disagreeing with me, or in fact anyone at all from that thread. Contrary to how it may look, I can take dissenting opinions and discussion. I don’t actually block people for disagreeing or shipping what they want or whatever.

And your post would have been more relevant than a lot of the reblogs anyway. 

But okay, you don’t need to comment if you don’t want, obviously. Just putting this out there.

Well, that certainly puts you in the minority around here…

I didn’t really expect you to respond because I’m pretty sure you don’t follow me, but since you did… there’s definitely a reason most people who are fans of Loki in the first instance, who came to love the character as he’s been developed in previous MCU films, strongly dislike Thor: Ragnarok, or come to dislike it as soon as they think much about how it handled Loki’s character AND Thor’s (and Bruce Banner’s, but that’s less important to most of us). I suspect the reason Thor fans haven’t done that deep thinking is because they’re strongly motivated to like the movie that was intended to make Thor the star of his own show, that allows him to finally get the better (in some sense) of Loki, who has been consistently upstaging him.

I’ve seen your longer post explaining your take on Loki’s character in Ragnarok and it’s probably easier to respond to it directly. You can take or leave my arguments, obviously.