fuckyeahrichardiii:

philosopherking1887:

shine-of-asgard:

kitty-hulk:

I hate how Ragnarok made Bruce

Yeah, he’s funny and all. And that was the point of the movie. But look at his past movies. He isn’t frantic, he isn’t the cause of all jokes, he isn’t comfortable around his friends most of the time. Bruce was stern, an incredibly intelligent physicist. He didn’t have this cute little worried attitude. And that bothers me. They made him stupid. They made his intelligence a joke in the movie. And maybe it’s good that he’s “happier” but it’s an incredibly polar change considering Ragnarok Bruce is picking up rsactly where Ultron Bruce left, so there’s no time for any character development. See the gifs for comparison. It just doesn’t seem like the same character.

They made everyone stupid. Ragnarok is either stupid or dickish and everyone suffers for it. Thor lying to Hulk and to Bruce about their alter egos, using Bruce without a second glance is such a dick move. Not funny, just… Ew.

@fuckyeahrichardiii also pointed out that this Bruce didn’t seem to care that he had spent 2 years killing people for fun as the Hulk. A major part of Bruce’s character in the two Avengers movies—and presumably also in The Incredible Hulk, though I haven’t seen it—is his guilt over the damage he does when he’s in Hulk form. In AOU, when Thor does his “report on the Hulk” and talks about the gates of Hel being filled with the screams of his enemies (which is how you do Thor humor, btw), Bruce groans and covers his face because he hates the idea of killing people. (And then Thor picks up on his discomfort and starts backtracking, because pre-Ragnarok Thor, while he may be a little obtuse about other people’s feelings, actually cares about them.) In fact, the reason Bruce/Hulk leaves Earth at the end of AOU is because he’s so distraught over the damage he did and the danger he put people in when Wanda messed with him in Johannesburg.

Yep. Bruce is *tortured* at the damage he does pretty consistently in all the MCU except for Ragnarok. In Ragnarok I saw Mark Ruffalo playing a put upon nerd who whined a lot, rather than an intelligent man who struggled with horrific anxiety (that open nerve line in Avengers was perfection) and the unwelcome burden of being the Hulk. TW did the same awful shit with Bruce that he did with Loki: he took several movies’ worth of beautiful, 3D character development and gutted all of that so that the audience could laugh at it.

Absolute fucking garbage. God, the movie makes me more angry the more I think about it.

#this movie was an insulting shit-heap deal with it#but I guess mcu fandom is okay with its bad writing#outright and deliberation alienation of female fans#gross queer-coding and homophobia#and complete ruin of the thor franchise#because the fandom prefers lulz#and a bottom of the barrel surface barely there commentary on imperialism?#it was a shit commentary on imperialism btw#even that was cheapened and thinned by TW’s focus on making everything and everyone (especially the audience) the butt of a cruel joke#i’m a little bit crabby today can you tell

I love you and your crabbiness, @fuckyeahrichardiii.